From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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I shoot in a small basement with a low ceiling. That makes it pretty much an echo chamber. I was just shooting my set of Dryad ACS limbs with no silencers, no real effort to find the quietest brace height, and the bow is hunting quiet. Well designed carbon limbs are always fast and always quiet given the right string.
DDave
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From: Ollie
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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My A&H ACS limbs have a distinct "ping" noise when shot but they are easy to quiet with puff ball silencers.
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From: lefty4
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Dave, What flavor string are you shooting?
Have you found that string to be "the right string" for all carbon limbs?
None of my carbon limbs seem to be as quiet as wood/glass limbs, but can certainly be made hunting quiet.
I'd like to try what you are using.
Thanks, Doug
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From: Jinkster
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Despite what materials any particular bows limbs are made of?...
I'm of the opinion that how noise you a bow is can be directly related to two factors....
1. How much energy was left behind in the bow due to an inefficient selection of arrow weight and...
2. It's general state of tune which is a multi-faceted challenge many struggle with and encompasses everything from string material to BH and a plethora of conditions in between.
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Yep it is about a twenty strand BCY-X. Rootybilt of course.
DDave
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From: lefty4
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Thanks Dave. I don't have any of that material,.............yet.
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From: Clydebow
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Quietest limbs I've ever owned was a set of Win&Win Focus Carbon limbs. I sold them to Jim Belcher years ago at The Compton Shoot. Wish I still had them!
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From: bodymanbowyer
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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That's what keeps it quite and no speed loss. Bcyx is very small diameter per strand. I do 20 with .018 serving,that fits a gold tip nock. Just barely makes a snap, when nocking a arrow. That's not big. Especially for how it performs. JF
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Ever wonder why BCY recommends 20 for X. I bet they did some testing eh. I actually prefer 21 or 24. Quietest I owned is a 24 (just shipped it yesterday).
DDave
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Ever wonder why BCY recommends 20 for X. I bet they did some testing eh. I actually prefer 21 or 24. Quietest I owned is a 24 (just shipped it yesterday).
DDave
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Which of course only makes it what you like eh. I have shot lots of low strand count strings including the 10 strand Barbeestyle Rhino ones Rooty makes today.
DDave
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From: Adam Howard
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Fury from 10 ring strings , love em .....
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From: Twisted Branch
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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That size string that bodymanbowyer uses sounds like what I need for a set up I'm trying to do with Uukha limbs. I'm trying to learn more about strings since I went to these limbs. I can tell I'm close, but just not quite there yet.
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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I have 3 of Allen's strings as well. They have puffs on them so no idea how quiet they are without them. Dead silent with puffs.
DDave
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From: silverarrowhead
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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Interesting! I'm pasting my comments here, from another topic in today's topics regarding ACS bows.. btw, I did try bcyw. It helped, but not good enough for me. I'm really curious if any of y'all have been ASL guys before, which are generally known to be whisper quiet.
Ok, I have had a different experience twice so, I'm very curious about the zero noise claim, or more realistically you think the bow is quiet. I had a 3 piece takes down, bamboo core, 60", 53# at 28", made in 2005. I also had a 1 piece acts, 62", 49# at 28", bamboo core, made in 2014. Both bows were undeniably great performers. Interesting that the chronometer showed speeds within 1 foster of each other, while shooting arrows that were 10-11 grains per lb of bow weight. I tried at least 4 different string materials, and used my own yarn silencers, which are as good as anyone's. I have been a longbow guy for 40 years, straight bows, d/r flex, backseat, and stringfollow, but all with wood and fiberglass. Other than stability, I'm going to say that the next most important thing to me is the quietness of my bows. I sold both bows last year. I could not stand the "pinging" sound coming from those bows. My friend's are glad I sold them my bows cheap, but both of them have added those limo vibration dampeners to the limbs, to quiet the bows down. I could never own a bow that required those things. Any comments are more than welcome. Please help explain
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From: camodave
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Date: 23-Feb-17 |
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My stringmaker Cameron once made about 20 BCY-X strings for the same bow before he got one quiet enough for his tastes. There are other factors than material that determine how quiet a bow will be with a particular string. One reason Cameron has switched to building Rhino strings with Rick Barbees guidance is that they are very consistent. Good luck getting either of them to share that formula. Great stringmakers are a different breed who tend to only talk to each other. I am not a stringmaker and probably never will be. The nice thing is I have enough great strings to last a lifetime. Having 35 bows helps.
DDave
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From: camodave
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Date: 24-Feb-17 |
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I really never started this thread to be another string discussion. Those who know who I bam know that for me "the string is the thing". All I really wanted was to let people know that carbon does not always mean that "annoying carbon sound I cannot seem to get rid of". How you do that is up to you.
DDave
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 24-Feb-17 |
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If you compared a 20 strand string and a 10 strand string that weighed the same and you make the 10 strand string heavier with string silencers - which do you think would be quietest?
Bowmania
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From: camodave
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Date: 24-Feb-17 |
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I do like the extra bit of free velocity one gets with a string without silencer drag slowing it down. That cost no additional effort, unlike additional draw weight to get the same effect.
DDave
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From: Pinecrest
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Date: 24-Feb-17 |
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My Winex limbs are really quiet with no silencers on the 8125.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 24-Feb-17 |
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All of my carbons and the BF Extremes which have a thin layer of wood with the carbon in the core are very quiet. I shoot spit finger though. A friend shot my BF's this weekend and I was standing by him and thought "I thought my bow was quieter than that". He handed it back to me and said "That bow is quiet". The difference is he shoots 3 under but to him it was quieter than his own bow but to me made mine harsher sounding.
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