Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Bear Patriot Arrow Shelf

Messages posted to thread:
Valkyrie 21-Feb-17
Cameron Root 21-Feb-17
Valkyrie 21-Feb-17
Cameron Root 21-Feb-17
fdp 21-Feb-17
Valkyrie 21-Feb-17
Tradguy 21-Feb-17
Valkyrie 22-Feb-17
Mpdh 22-Feb-17
osage 23-Feb-17
From: Valkyrie
Date: 21-Feb-17




I had a Montana and I didn't like the grip at all so I sold it. The Patriot seemed to be a good choice so I ordered one and it arrived today. 64" and 50# @ 28". I draw 30". It's very nice but I'm a little confused at the arrow shelf. It's crowned and scalloped out. I can see the idea behind the design but I have no experience with it. It's almost a captive rest and I'm confused how it promotes arrow flight. The leather shelf material provided is very soft and kinda drags on the arrow when it's drawn and making a bouncy arrow draw. These are wood arrows. I'm thinking that I might use the fuzzy Velcro for a shelf material.

Anyone have anything to comment on this arrow shelf and this bow. I'm excited to try it out but with work it might not be until the weekend. Maybe I'll give it a few shots in the garage tomorrow.

From: Cameron Root
Date: 21-Feb-17




Nock it 3/4 high to get out of that groove. Mine shot good. Found it stiff compared to others. Rooty

From: Valkyrie
Date: 21-Feb-17




Are you saying attach a rest above the shelf?

From: Cameron Root
Date: 21-Feb-17




No I am not

From: fdp
Date: 21-Feb-17




Is the material on the shelf on backwards? Meaning that when you draw the arrow, it is moving AGAINST the nap of the material?

From: Valkyrie
Date: 21-Feb-17




It's a very very soft glove type leather. There isn't a directional nap to it at all. I rubbed in a small amount of pecards leather dressing and it seems to have solved the issue.

I like the bow but the brace height recommended from Bear seems awfully low. I set it at 6 1/2" and my fletching are not clearing the belly side of the shelf. I guess is doesn't matter but I'm used to bows with more brace height.

It seems very nice to draw and points well. I really like the small palm swell on the grip. It seems to fall right into the perfect orientation in my hand.

I guess it has some unique features that I haven't encountered before and I am excited to get some arrows through it. I worked up some Surewood 70-75# full length shafts with 5" shield cut, right wing fletching and 125gr points. These worked out good as a staring point on my 45# SK so I think they might be a good starting point here

From: Tradguy
Date: 21-Feb-17




You can go up to 7 1/4 per directions that came with mine. It is a 50# @ 28 & I shoot 55-60 ash arrows with no problems.

These weigh 440 gr when cut to 28 1/4.

From: Valkyrie
Date: 22-Feb-17




I can get it a little higher but obviously I want to tune it for the best which may be a lower brace measurement.

From: Mpdh
Date: 22-Feb-17




Tradguy, are you weighing a bare shaft? I've never used ash but thought they were heavier than that. MP

From: osage
Date: 23-Feb-17




they are 500 +- 5 grains at 32 " or so when I get them. cut to 28 1/4 and trimmed for nocks / broadheads they wigh 440 bare shaft. with 150 gr BH thwy are right at 600 gr. rather elkish but may go to a 200 gr BH.





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