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Covert hunter

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MCS 21-Jan-17
JB 21-Jan-17
MCS 21-Jan-17
JB 21-Jan-17
fdp 21-Jan-17
George D. Stout 21-Jan-17
lefty4 22-Jan-17
MCS 22-Jan-17
lefty4 22-Jan-17
Bowmania 22-Jan-17
Bowmania 22-Jan-17
Bowmania 22-Jan-17
cch 22-Jan-17
Bode 22-Jan-17
Jinkster 22-Jan-17
sixby 22-Jan-17
MCS 23-Jan-17
From: MCS
Date: 21-Jan-17




Does anyone own a Covert Hunter that they shoot split finger. Everyone I see shoots them 3 under.

From: JB
Date: 21-Jan-17




I just picked on up and I shoot split

From: MCS
Date: 21-Jan-17




The small window is not a problem?

From: JB
Date: 21-Jan-17




I have 19" riser and cant when I shoot so not an issue. Have a buddy that shoots straight up and tried 17" riser and didn't like it and now has 19"

From: fdp
Date: 21-Jan-17




It's all a mind thing. You can shoot any boy, even selfbows with no sight window, straight up and down split finger.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jan-17




Exactly what fdp said. You can shoot any bow in vertical plane. All canting does is open up your vision...nothing else. If you can't shoot a bow on a vertical plane, it's not the bow's issue.

From: lefty4
Date: 22-Jan-17




Borders have relatively wide risers and somewhat short (not tall) sight windows in the takedown versions. If you don't cant when you shoot, this could be a problem. I shoot split and cant my bow a little and sometimes still get distracted by the riser "corner" at the top of the sight window of my Black Douglas. It is not just in my mind, it is in my sight picture. It does not cover the target, but it is there.

Several Border owners have commented on this and tend to shoot longer recurve risers for just this reason. I would take this into consideration and try to shoot one before you buy or order so you get the correct setup.

From: MCS
Date: 22-Jan-17




Thank you guys.

From: lefty4
Date: 22-Jan-17




One more thing. They are AWESOME bows and shoot VERY well.

Just my 4 cents.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-17




I agree with lefty4 on the cant. I have a longbow with a very short window and it covers the target on shorter shots. I have the same issue with selfbows. If you think about where your dominant eye is it should.

With the reasons mention above and the (in my bigoted opinion) very poor grip are reasons to get ILF limbs.

Bowmania

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-17




MCS, You should run this thread at TT. They're Border crazy over there.

Bowmania

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-17




MCS, You should run this thread at TT. They're Border crazy over there.

Bowmania

From: cch
Date: 22-Jan-17




I don't think you would have any issues with a 19" or longer riser. On my 17" I shot three under and used the top of the sight window as a 20 yard sight. But if you cant the bow at all you won't have any issues. They are great performers.

From: Bode Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 22-Jan-17




I had one and shot it split but I just didn't care for the feel of the draw. I liked the Black Douglas better currently have 6.7 6.5 6 and hex 5 limbs. I still like the feel of the hex 5 limbs the best and shoot them the best. I'm sure most would disagree with me, but just don't like the feel of the draw curve with most of the weight up front. Both had a short window and that didn't bother me.

From: Jinkster
Date: 22-Jan-17

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Well folks?...The Good Lord and the www knows I've expressed my opinions of my 17" risered Hex7 CH...and in abundance...but maybe I do have a couple helpful things to add here as follows...

Question #1: "Is is difficult to get a clear clean sight picture through the 17" Covert Hunter risers diminutive sight window?"

My Answer?: Yes and No...and while at first it did take a touch of..."Getting Used Too"?...

I could clearly see where it may be considered a detriment to those who don't shoot with "Both Eye's Open"...where yes...if I close my left eye?...targets close in will readily disappear behind this somewhat bulbous fireplug of a riser however?..with "Both Eyes Open"?...that detriment rapidly becomes an asset that can be put to great use where I actually see a combination of two sight pictures...and at the same time...my dominant eye sight picture (which is partially blocked at shorter distances) and my non-dominant sight picture which is wide open...where blended together?...makes the upper corner of my risers sight window much like a built-in 20yd sight pin.

Is it different?...yes...is it hard to get used to?...He11 No!...is it something I'm willing to acclimate myself too for the benefit of a bow that is truly compact and "COVERT" in tight places?...all day long! LOL!

Question #2: "Will everyone Love The Draw Cycle of Hex7/7.5 Series Limbs?"

My Answer?: Some will...but some won't...but of those?..the ones who won't will be the ones who don't give them a chance long enough to truly know them.

Where here again?...They did take a bit of "getting used too" where the first thing one must realize is the string isn't going to stack on the pounds and just rip through your fingers as you expand through the loose where pulling through "straight back" where a less dynamic...more static...smooth controlled roll off the fingers seems to yield far more consistent results which in turn will allow you to see that the Hex7 series of limbs requires much stiffer spined shafting than does bows of more conventional limb profiles and once I reached this point?...there was no turning back...because the Compact Powerhouse The Hex7 Covert Hunters are?....are also very addictive...I mean what other 45# bow throws a 585gr/13GPP arrow at a very consistent 172fps and sports right at 40ftlbs of KE?

So I ordered a 2nd one...a Hex7.5 Covert Hunter with a 21" riser @ 37#s for 3D and all day shooting fun...should be here in a couple months or so.

It's "The Power In The Limbs Gents"...my 45# Hex7 store the same energy as a 52.2# bow...my 37# Hex7.5's?....will store the same energy as a 46.25# bow...and the arrows need to be spined accordingly and lots of GPP is what exploits the benefits from them the most.

Don't get me wrong here...everything has a place and a purpose...and there's times I love shooting my well sorted 37# Blackbear Warf...it keeps my form in shape..but it isn't very often that I reach for it anymore. ;)

From: sixby
Date: 22-Jan-17




Great anmswers Jinkster!!!Looking at that pic of you drawing the bow it is very evident that border could eliminate most of the problem by simply grinding that huge corner off enough to clear the right eye. One of the best things you said is that most people do not take enough time to really get to know a bow before they decide against it. That is a fact I have dealt with over and over and most times when people actually take time to know a bow they completely reverse their attitudes toward it. I have had one guy sell a bow the first day he got it. His friend that bought it loved it. I had another one that called me and said he hated the bow. He took it to a friends house and shot it and a week later he called me and said his friend really knew a lot more about bows than he did and loved the bow and that after he shot it some completely changed his mind. He now has bought two bows from me./ So this is a very common thing and you addressed that.

God bless, Steve

From: MCS
Date: 23-Jan-17




Thank you Mr Jinks.





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