From: RickD
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I've listed bows for sale and have had two different people say they wanted them..We do the private message thing and work out all the details at that point I assume the deal is closed...In the mean time two other people say they want the bow and I tell them its been sold...Now the guy who wanted this bow so badly suddenly goes dead on me...Wont return my messages...I contact the other guys only to find out they bought bows already...You guys who wanted the bow in the first place could be nice enough to say hey cant afford it or say I just lost interest in the bow...Don't leave someone hanging and they lose selling the bow because you went dead on the deal...
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From: sir misalots
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I say something isn't sold till the moneys in my hand. Id let prospective buyers know , first one that sends me the money gets the bow.
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From: Longbow58
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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X2 sir misalots. It's the old "snooze you loose thing". Sell to the guy that puts the money in your hand. Been there. Good luck
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From: Wayne Carver
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I have had the same thing happen several times lately. I held some limbs for someone on here for almost 3 weeks for them to finally say they couldn't afford them. Also once someone says they will take it it should be a done deal. Instead after they say it they start asking tons of questions that should have been ask before they committed. It stinks for sure and makes to tough to buy and sell and trust someone.
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From: Biathlonman
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Had the same thing happen to me several times recently.
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From: Zepnut
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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If I have a bow for sale and a guy wants photos I send them. If I do not hear back they go on my ( Do Not Respond List ) At least have the curiosity to let the seller know what your thinking. Very rude.
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From: Gvdocholiday
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Ha...I seem to attract the scammers. I've had three attempts on two different bows in the last month. The first time he actually sent me 2 counterfeit postal MO's for several hundred more than what was needed. Sent them to local law enforcement and washed my hands of it.
Yesterday a guy sent me a PM with his phone number. I called, left a message, 2 minutes later I get a text saying he can send a check and then send the bow after the check clears....the exact same phishing technique used by the first guy. In fact I'm 96% certain it's the same guy just a different handle. Anyways, I responded that I accept paypal only now after some "expletive, expletive, piece of expletive scammer" sent me counterfeit postal MOs.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I have more or less given up on the LW classifieds. Lots of tire kickers that like looking at bow pictures.
I like eBay because once the auction ends the deal is made and the money is sent.
A while back a fellow LW put me on to someone who wanted a bow.
I emailed the person and he asked a ton of questions about three or four I was moving. Three days of emailing back and forth which is fair ball.
He finally said he wanted one of them and we agreed on the price. I went to pack it and discovered an unseen potential issue with the tip and advised him I would not sell that bow to anyone. I would keep it myself and shoot it as I thought it would be OK but was not comfortable passing it along. Open and transparent.
He then picked another one and was all pumped to be getting it.
I boxed up the bow and I asked him to send me the address and payment.
I waited for three days and then started sending emails. After almost a week he sent a two line message that he was interested in getting some other bow. No sorry or anything.
I was miffed but moved on and sold the bow on eBay for a better price.
So agree with the OP. This is the type of nonsense that poaches my eggs!
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From: Deno
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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x2 Pdiddly
Deno
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From: Catsailor
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I know many of you don't like PayPal, but I think that could narrow the gap. Instead of waiting days for a payment it could be more likely hours. I usually pay with PayPal. I tell the seller when I expect to process the payment. Then I do the PayPal transaction and email the seller that it's done. The seller can then check to make sure the payment was processed. Communicate Communicate Communicate.
Sir Misalots what if you get more than one payment for the same bow?
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From: RJH1
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Wow, I have done several trades, and bought and sold a few bows on here and other sites, and never had any issues. Hope it is not a growing trend. I kinda feel left out, never even got approached by a scammer:-)
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From: cyrille
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I can understand, in fact I do understand where the seller is coming from. However what about the buyer? S/he is taking just as great a risk as the seller. I recently did a deal with a seller on a bow and we agreed to mail the payment and the bow on the same day which we did and all turned out well. I received the bow and the seller received payment on the same day! Sure both of us were taking a chance but in this case it worked to the satisfaction of both parties.
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From: N. Y. Yankee
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Dad used to do a lot of "wheelin' an dealin" with folks. Even when he had a guy say he'd buy something, if someone else came to look at it too, Dad would get the guys offer and his name and phone number in writing. Sometimes the first guy would crap out on the sale and Dad would call the other guy, SOLD! Seen it happen many times and we would laugh about it. Always get the prospective buyer's info until the item is gone!
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From: Kwikdraw
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Well, in the old days a man's word was his bond, you could take it to the bank, NO MORE! Just a sign of the times, and under the last regime, lying became a normal and accepted part of life!
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From: RickD
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Done ranting..just kind of frosted me butt a bit..I just listed it on Ebay...
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From: Eric Krewson
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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As one who always operated on my word and a handshake and never backed out on a deal I am appalled at the lack of honor in today's men.
The one that still grinds my gears was when a guy in Birmingham ordered a custom selfbow from me.
I went to work, the first bow I made broke so I made another which missed poundage. The third bow I made was as good a bow as I ever made so I emailed the guy to tell him his bow was ready, no response, repeated emails came up blank as well. I used a people search to find his phone number and gave him a call. When I got him on the phone he said "I changed my mind and don't want the bow", end of story. I had a month's work in getting him a perfect bow bow made and he stiffed me.
I started selling a few things on Craig's List which was a real eye opener on the lack of responsibility of John Q Public in general.
I listed a gun cabinet and had 7 different people call and tell me they would be right over to buy the cabinet, not the first one showed up. I called a few of them back and got the most lame excuses for them being a no show. It was laughable in a way but mostly a pathetic definition of what once proud Americans have become.
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From: unhinged
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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As bad as payapl sucks, it's foolish and protracted to do most anything else. You can send an invoice to record the transaction and the money transfer is instant. If you don't use credit cards linked to your account, you can avoid any fees associated by gifting. Still does not eliminate the wankers who seem to look and inquire about everything!
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From: Fisher Cat
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Eric Krewson: "It was laughable in a way but mostly a pathetic definition of what once proud Americans have become."
I agree. The whole concept of freedom and individual liberty depends on, and assumes we all have personal responsibility and respect for others. Sadly, it seems that those who scream about their rights the most are often the least responsible. - John
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From: The Whittler
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Just a thought but maybe the buyer got a bad feeling from the seller.
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From: StikBow
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I have lived in DC. those folks lead the way and teach others by their actions, that "nobody lied-the truth changed". The way to terminate a deal is upfront honesty-buyer must have his funds readily available, and the seller must fully commit to selling. Then a change of mind or personal circumstance is an honest way to terminating-no embarrassment, just an honest admission. Everyone can appreciate that.
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From: RickD
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Whittler still not a reason not to respond...
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Yes...if you get a bad feeling have the courtesy to respond to the other party.
What is exasperating is the lack of communication.
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From: Glen E in OK
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I had a similar experience with a LW'er here. I answered his ad for a short bow. Told him all about it, sent several pics. He messaged me back saying he was interested, wanting more pics. I took them and sent them to him. My computer said they were sent to his E-mail address. After that, no reply, no nothing. At least he could have E-mailed he was no longer interested. Very rude, indeed!
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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First of all, don't throw all Americans under the bus because you have some pinheads who don't follow through on something. As a rule, most people are as honest as you are....and I mean most. You find the dolts on places like classifieds but they sure don't represent the whole. It's actually this kind of attitude that hurts buyers and sellers. A little sense in selling or trading here; no history no sale. And there are as many bad sellers as crooked buyers...so act accordingly. To me, trust is earned...not just given.
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From: Sipsey River
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I learned that lesson a long time ago. It is part of selling on the internet. I don't tell anyone a bow is sold until the money has been received. I make sure a potential buyer knows that the first person sending the money gets the bow. I know some don't like using PayPal but with the use of Paypal, there is no reason not to pay instantly and ship the same day.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Although you don't like this and are venting we get this. We really do but if you sold or bought many bows somewhere along the line a bow or so goes South. Its human nature and if you want to hold the hand to the fire then its your hand that's eventually going to get burned too.
It already got burned in case you don't know it they didn't take it and your mentioning this.
If I mentioned all the times I herd I want it then cold trails I'd be hated more.LOL
Even some of the so called good ones or friends too. Just how it goes at times.
Is this right it certainly isn't but what can be done other than bitch about it?
Pay pal to me is so much better dealing with things. They get the money right away and you don't have to take the time going to PO or wondering if the snail made the trip to your door either? LOL
People should be up front because its not like you can jump through computer and eat them.LOL
Hopefully they will see your post and get the message and work on getting better at being credible and up front. It takes courage and working on with some people.
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From: G&DMAN
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I've sold 5 bows on this site without any problems.I always talk by phone to the person I'm dealing with. I can tell a lot about a person, by simply talking with them. If they show interest in the bow & we agree upon a price, I tell the person that I will ship the bow & upon receipt of the bow if they like it, to send me the money. Otherwise, just return the bow. I haven't been stiffed yet. I believe that most folks are honest & when you show a trust in them, it's hard for them to do the wrong thing. I'm not saying my method is for everyone, I only know it works for me. Remember that a promise made, is a debt unpaid.
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From: MStyles
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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That only happened to me once on a trade deal, on this forum. I had offered something I had ( with a pic) that I wanted to trade for a specific item. He contacted me and offered a trade. I pm'd him back that sounded like a fair trade. He pm'd back, with that was fine, I'll send you a pic. That was the last I heard from him. Evidently his response really meant, "oh sure, I'm going to trade you this for your crap...not a chance..." I didn't pick up on that until later. And he was the one who initiated the trade.
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From: gluetrap
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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some of us do too much trading. I traded a guy something for a pair of limbs I wanted. as I was ripping of the tape on the box I noticed another address under it...it was mine!! a guy I traded limbs to had traded them to this guy and I got my old limbs back.. they came full circle....I will keep them this time lol...ron
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From: Pointer
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I've had almost all great deals here as both buyer and seller but there were definitely a few instances like those described on this thread. There are a number of guys on here who just like seeing pictures of bows..based on their responses once they get those pics there can be no doubt they never intended to buy the bow. I have also had a clown or two on the swap and trade thread agree to a trade and then disappear. Two days later they post that their item was traded...obviously with someone else.
I never lost anything other than my time so it's not really a trust thing to me. It's more a matter of being able to offer a little common courtesy to a fellow LW member.
If someone has no posting history here then I tell them it's paypal only and payment to be received by the following day or the bow goes to someone else.
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From: South Farm
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I buy and sell a lot of stuff on C-list, and every now and then a bow here. If I have someone say they're interested and then somebody else calls after that I tell them the sale is pending and get their info. If the original guy falls off the earth and doesn't respond I call the next in line until I get one with cash on the barrel head. All but the most ignorant understand how an online sale works and I really don't care if they're butt-hurt over the deal...as mentioned above, you snooze you lose.
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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It basically depends how desirable your bow is. If it is highly desirable, you can tell people that the first person to pay will get it, if you can figure out how not to get payed twice.
But sometimes the first person who shows interest is actually the only person who will show interest, so if you throw up too many roadblocks you loose.
Myself, I have heard this stuff about people backing away a lot. Normally I try to be the guy who if he says he wants to buy it will buy it. I think that has got me the odd deal. Sometimes I goof and don't notice something like I recently bought a bow that I forgot to check what grip it had, it was a Hill style and I just assumed it was straight, but I bought it anyway. Recently I also wanted to buy a Belcher, but I was tied up with another deal, and eventually lost it to another guy, but I don't think I ever committed on that one.
Buyer's regret normally sets in when someone buys, so that is when you will loose the sale, or just as it dawns on them they are going to have to pay up. Don't bet the farm on their following through.
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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"Eric Krewson: "It was laughable in a way but mostly a pathetic definition of what once proud Americans have become."
I agree. The whole concept of freedom and individual liberty depends on, and assumes we all have personal responsibility and respect for others. Sadly, it seems that those who scream about their rights the most are often the least responsible. - John"
Currently our freedom depends on the fact that a bomb dropped from a mile up generates a lot less anguish than running someone through with a bayonet. same thing with dealing on the internet. On the positive, Americans are one of only a handful of nations worth dealing with on Ebay. There are maybe a dozen at most. Maybe that is what makes us the indispensable consumers.
Also remember as sellers, projecting what you think is right on others is just another word for bad customer service. Customer service is what the customer says good customer service is. If you know anything about marketing, you know you can slice and dice consumers but age brackets (etc...). They train associates to recognize traits and behave appropriately. I'm 57 and it drives me crazy when I drop 45K on a truck and I thank the salesman and he responds "no problem". They should know better. But don't think there is only one way to be in the world for honest people.
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From: Brian B
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Hey Rick, I have sold appx. 6 bows on the lw, all smooth transactions, I did have a bow posted last fall, and had some "similar" experiences with my attempts to sell the bow. Not to bad, they would shoot Me a post, I would respond, and then would not hear anything, No real big deal. I took the bow off of lw, and My middle Son does quite a bit of selling on ebay, so He convinced Me to give it a whirl, five hours later a lady from Co. scooped it up. didn't even ask to give Me a best offer, She just posted the money in My sons pay pal/ or ebay acct., or whatever account it was, and it was a done deal. Good luck Rick, Brian...
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From: Darryl Payne
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Ok a lot of you like pay pal, I get that. I have never bought or sold over the internet but am prepared to do so soon. So my question is what is pay pal and how do you "get" it.I am not a computer person, what some see as simple others see as complicated and not worth the effort. If you take a money order why not wait until it clears the bank or po. then send the goods.The buyer is as much at risk as the seller it seems as well. Seems that a phone conversation,the buyers address and a trip to the post office to verify that the money order is real when it comes in is all you need. Please educate me how these fake money orders are made and work.Agree on the communication there is little excuse for not keeping it up.
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From: 1/2miledrag
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I must be one of the lucky ones. I have sold bows here with no problems. I have also traded bows and other goods here, no problems.
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From: skookum bow
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Hi,
Actually with PayPal the buyer is in a better situation than the seller.
I can give an example: I used to metal detect quite a bit, had a huge collection of metal detectors and sold a top of the line unit to a guy living in the country next to mine(I live in Europe).
I told him more than once that this particular unit needed headphones with a mono headphone plug - do not use the stereo type - you will get no signal.
The deal went through and I paid the 3% handling fee to PayPal.
The next thing I knew, the guy had filed a complaint to PayPal saying the detector was defect and he had witnesses to prove it.
PayPal reimbursed the guy before I even got the detector back.
I had no money, no detector, was out 3% of the purchase price and had to pay for return shipping as well.
Needless to say, when I got the detector back and plugged in the proper head phones, the unit worked perfectly.
The whole dilemma cost me nigh on €50 and a lot of grief.
The same thing could just as well happen when selling a bow.
How can you prove that the limb is not bent if the buyer applies for reimbursement because he changed his mind after he received the bow?
I´m not knocking PayPal as I use it myself a lot, when buying.
Just saying that the seller has more of a risk than the buyer.
And this is not a made up "fear story"
shoot straight - skookum bow
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From: Bode
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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I have had great experiances so far. Only sold about a doz. bows and bought about the same and everyone has been great.
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From: Pagroundgame
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Whoever deposits it in PayPal first!! It is simple to refund the ones that get in second and third. You snooze you lose, The early bird gets the recurve, and finders keepers all that crap are sayings for reasons. They aren't the nicest but it prevents from missing deals and screwing someone out of who really wants it- once I called about a table on Craigslist. the guy said I could come get it tomorrow at 5pm. An hour later he called and said "sorry my wife said to someone else they could buy it but if they don't show up at 5pm we will sell it you" What did/can you do? What I did was show up at 4:30 and pretended to be the first guy. I got the table still. Thanksgiving dinner is amazing at it. Transactional sales are aggressive by nature. Don't let people screw you or someone else out of something that you want or want to part with. Put the money in the account if your first you get if not you get refunded. Is that wrong?
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From: Pagroundgame
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Date: 19-Jan-17 |
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Blackstick- you are spot on.
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From: skookum bow
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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let´s look at Kung Fu Caveman´s "both parties are safe" story and say you sold a good old wooden recurve to a guy who shoots 300 very light weight carbon arrows through it and the tip delaminates.
Who gets left holding the bag ?
The buyer or the seller, when having done a PayPal deal ?
Since the buyer gets a total refund, the seller is stuck with paying shipping costs twice, paid 3% to PayPal plus now owns a bow he has to fix.
Granted, this is a worst case scenario and by all means not common - but another example that the buyer has less risk than the seller when dealing through PayPal.
I´m not saying that I don´t like paying with PayPal - but if I sell anything of any value, the buyer better come around, look at the item and pay cash on the barrel head.
Guess with me it´s a case of "once bitten - twice shy" and I sure hope that above mentioned example never happens to anybody on this here forum.
shoot straight - skookum bow
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From: Elkhuntr
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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I have had a few relatively minor issues but for the most part, bought and sold a lot of things over the years here without incident.
I would agree there seems to be more tire kickers than in the past. if I am selling, I put in my ads "serious inquiries only please". not sure that helps but.........
one of my worst dealings was with a sponsor. I purchased a used bow with the condition described as 'good'. no mention of holes, cracks or repairs. when I got the bow, there was a crack in the riser fade above the sight window that was filled with glue.
I was able to return it, after some back and forth haggling. I don't purchase anything from him anymore.
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From: GLF
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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I don't assume anythings sold till the buyer says, "I'll take it". At that point and not before I start telling people its sold.
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From: South Farm
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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"I must be one of the lucky ones. I have sold bows here with no problems. I have also traded bows and other goods here, no problems."
X2! I don't do Paypal so I've had to pass on a few transactions through the years, but luckily 99.9% of the people here are good honest types...even if their grizzled scruffy appearance indicates they may be of an unscrupulous nature I trust 'em, and haven't been burned yet;)
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From: BlacktailBowhunter
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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A lot of it has to do with the sellers communication as well.
Let them know that if you don't hear back within a certain timeframe, you'll move on. If someone wants a bow, they're going to be excited and Johnny on the spot.
PayPal is immediate. If they're paying with a money order, have them photograph and email or text a picture of the m/o to you.
I've bought and sold without any issue.
Tradgang has weeded out a lot of this behavior with only allowing contributors. That way they can eliminate a lot of the flakes.
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From: vintage-bears
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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I currently have 2 people here who messaged me back and forth about wanting my bows. Both have gone silent
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From: HitorMiss
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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I have recently sold a few bows here and I can say that communication has really been good. I in turn communicate pro-actively with the buyer letting them know terms of sale. Most guys on this site are great it is just a few scammers and some inconsiderate people make it seem worse.
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From: brianbfree
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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I have purchased a few bows on here and have never had an issue from the seller. I have asked for pics and not responded if the bow did not look like a fit for me. I did not even think that not responding had the ability to cause hurt feelings so if you are one of those sellers please accept my apology.
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From: jk
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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The motto of people who sell for a living is "buyers are liars."
That isn't as nasty as it sounds. I just means the sale isn't complete just because someone says he's buying.
It's finished when the deal is complete...money in hand.
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From: Bentstick81
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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Rick D., I am having some of that on an ad i have on the classifieds. Its aggravating. They act like they are interested, and then, don't respond back. All i ask for is a yes or no, but i guess its too hard to do. I have bought quite a few bows on here, and sold a few, and this one has been the worst. I always tell the seller yes or no, as soon as i can.
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From: Bentstick81
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Date: 20-Jan-17 |
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I don't think it would be a bad idea to list the names of people that set sellers up. We do when buyers get ripped off. Just a thought.
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From: greyghost
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Date: 21-Jan-17 |
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So many scammers out there when they find out you won't ship till the money clears or that you only use PayPal they disappear.
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From: Kahuna
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I don't think that one should always expect a response. If an interested party asks a question about a bow, etc. and the seller responds in kind, that may be the end of it - the seller's response may be such that the potential buyer is no longer interested and I see no real need to further respond, unless perhaps the conversation has gone on for a bit, then maybe a "no longer interested" response may the proper thing to do. I think worse is sellers who do not respond and I have had that experience on several occasions. Lastly, I am amazed at how many sellers do not post a pic of the item for sale, especially bows.
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From: jk
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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Just sold a sweet longbow two days after the buyer posted his want ad. Buyer got a great (low) price on a highly-respected, well- known bowyer's best.
Just bought a Hoyt, two day turn-around, fair price on a highly regarded target bow. I searched and found what I wanted, paid for it immediately following the next day's email exchange...seller shipped saturday, I shot Tuesday.
What goes around, comes around. Never use anything other than Paypal.
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From: cobra
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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Many good points here but no one will convince me that there is an easier, faster, safer way to transact than Paypal. As a former investigator I can say that no financial transaction existing today is bulletproof. But, Paypal offers many attractive aspects, including 3rd party assistance towards mediation and investigative resources available to law enforcement. Buyer or seller, here is a simple situation I never want to find myself in: More than one payment from several buyers in transit to me. Then, what a headache for everyone involved, buyer or seller, waiting for the monies to be returned to rightful parties. How many emails? How many addresses ph# exchanged. How many trips to post office to mail back checks, money orders, etc. What if that then gets lost or stolen in return attempts, and so on. Paypal=Simple. Offers reasonable security to everyone involved.
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From: Deno
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I've only done 2 transactions on LW classified and both were great. Paypal and Ebay for most things I buy. There's always a no questions asked for returning an item. Deno
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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Don't want to highjack the thread, but this happened to me. Wondering what you guys think.
I get a PM. Guy says, "If you still have the bow, I would like to buy it."
A minute later I get a PM for another guy. The guy says, "I will buy your bow. How do we close the deal to your satisfaction. I can send Paypal immediately. Here's my contact information." Followed by his name, telephone number and address.
So... who gets the bow?
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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The worst ones want 10 jillion photos then silence.Waste of my time I remember those guys.
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From: PECO
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I hate it when that happens. Either you want the bow or not. If you offer me a bow on a trade and I say yes, it should be a done deal. You made the offer. If you have to ask your wife if you can buy another bow, I don't want to here from you. She will tell you no. That being said, I have made some great, prompt trades on here.
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From: Tatwell
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I've had excellent buying and selling experiences here. Never had a problem.
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From: timex
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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they have been torturing me
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From: RJH1
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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Jim Casto, what I do in that situation is give the first person who responds the first opportunity, and tell the second guy that he was second and if something happens and the first guy doesn't take it, I will contact him and see if he wants it. Basically first come first served.
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From: Phil Magistro
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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Jim, I'd say the first person that said they would buy it but I'd contact them to make sure before getting back to the other guy.
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From: wonderbowman
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I just worked out a trade, we each send pics, agree to do the deal and I start packing yesterday. For those of you that have bought or traded with me know I send in wooden boxes so packing is a job. I get an email this morning saying the deals off because he hadn't heard from me. I ask if he's checked his junk mail. He responds by saying doing that was not normal BUT he did check and my email was there. No apology, just basically saying its my fault.
We all have to realize we're dealing with people, and people are nuts.
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From: Bxrecurve15
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I've purchased 4-5 bows and recently made my first trade all have gone great.
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From: Brad Lehmann
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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I don't give out my paypal address until I know that it is a done deal. If someone says they want the bow and want to pay using paypal I tell them my address and say that I am watching for payment. Did that today when I sold the Black Widow. We were corresponding on messenger while I was waiting for confirmation. I shipped the bow and the buyer had a tracking number within an hour of payment.
If someone wants to futz around and have to ask mommy or whatever and someone else comes along with money and doesn't have to, then the second guy gets the bow. I have no patience with indecisive people.
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From: RJH1
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Date: 02-Mar-17 |
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"We all have to realize we're dealing with people, and people are nuts."
My new favorite quote
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From: jk
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Date: 03-Mar-17 |
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If you're buying and/or selling you're in business. Therefore you're at risk. Suck it up. Self-defeating to harbor negative attitude toward the other side of your transaction/s.
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