If any of you have put tape on the belly side of riser and put marks on it for elevation hoe did that work out? Seems it would be hard to focus on the marks or mark and the arrow. How did you do it.

Haven't done it for a long while, but think I might do it again for longer yardages, say 30-40 yards or more. The more one cants, the further the lines/dots will be from the perceived target. Regardless, the line just sets the elevation. After I have that, I complete my aim and release. I use split vision aiming. I expect those who gap shoot would find it even easier.

Crow, why not just put a sight on your bow?

No sight sorry. Just keep exploring my options. Don't mind aiming. Gotta do alot of practice to get it figured out. I'm thinking use tape for awhile then when the tapes hone it should kinda become natural.

I do it when setting up and shooting split. Works for me.

I sometimes use Velcro and a stick pin, or a sight if the riser is tapped.

Jack Krohn marks his riser with lines. He used to post here as captain jack, or close to that. He's on facebook now but haven't seen him here for a long time.

You know, one of the best things you could do to get your form solid is to put a sight on the bow for awhile. For some reason here people view them as the devil's spawn, yet will string walk and gap and think nothing of it.

Lol the tape is a sight. It won't be allowed at most shoots unless you shoot in the sight class.

Not to worried cause i dont shoot in any class. I just like going to 3D,s and shoot but not even carry a score card.I shoot for myself and try to get better.Just for fun and experience and being with good people.

Crow, you can use the tape on the riser to learn your gaps just like you would with a sight, no question.

You could also take a piece of foam tape and a large headed pin and do the same thing. That way you don't have to invest in a sight, but you can get all the learning advantages.

In the 60s the older guy that went pheasant hunting had sights set at 15, 25 and 35 yards, he said that he shot through the sight pins not with them, elevated secondary aiming points. Another fellow near here uses a single large DAS sight, the 'spot' according to him, is high in the gap at 25 yards and low in the gap at 15 yards. He gets that done with about a 1/2 second hold.

Might as well put a sight on the bow rather than use tape marks in my opinion. Nothing wrong with a sight, many used them on their recurves in the day, probably most hunters had at least in my area 45 yrs ago.

I use the arrow tip akin to gap shooting - works for me.

Not to interrupt this thread, but I often shoot at deer at last light when its the hardest to pick a spot. I could see the benefit to a single pin or aperture in hunting situations.

You should be able to see them in your peripheral vision.

I do this on my hunting riser and have for a couple years. It works exceptionally well - but it most certainly is a sight so be warned if you show up to a 3d range with tape marks...

I tried a single/fixed crawl but it wasn't for me. I gap shoot but like the precise 'gaps' that I can consistently use with tape on my riser.

My hunting riser is a BB warf painted flat black. I use a 1/8" strip of white electrical tape that corresponds with my 20 yard gap. I focus exclusively on my intended target and make sure that my arrow is lined up as perfectly as I can make it directly under the target. The white tape strip jumps out very well in my peripheral vision so my 'tape gap' is really easy to replicate shot after shot. For longer/shorter shots, just adjust your tape gap.

I'm a pretty discriminate hunter as far as range is concerned, but I wouldn't have an issue putting multiple tape marks on the riser, I just find a single mark to work best for me and my effective range.

3D isn't just an opportunity to shoot ethafoam...it's also an opportunity to take part in something valuable.

Everybody knows that the guys who "don't keep score" don't want to fully take part with the other "good guys".

3-D is competition, and like any other competition it's an opportunity to learn some truth.

Currently, most everybody with a few years of honest shooting beats me. I don't like to be beaten, but I do get better with every truth.

Some of you guys may be talking about fixed long distance target shooting and I only bowhunt, but for me, guessing the proper gap amounts to the same thing as guessing the unknown yardage. Either way, you have to guess. That is, unless you mark the yardages around your stand or use some sort of a range finder.

Uncle Lijiah I only hunt as well, other than a couple 3d shoots each year, but it isn't anything competitive.

I limit myself to around 25 yards shots at game. I write around 25 yards because I don't use a dedicated ranging device so I couldn't tell you exactly how far my average shot on a deer is until I pace it off after the shot. If I am off 2-3" or so, it usually doesn't matter because it is still within the kill zone.

I don't even think about gaps when I hunt -- if I get the feeling to take the shot I know it is well within my effective range. Draw bow, line up arrow under the target, focus on the spot I want to hit and the tape gap just magically happens. I haven't missed a deer since I started this method. If you 'think' the deer is a little further than your 20 yard gap, cheat a little and hold the tape gap a smidge high, the opposite is true if you feel the deer is closer than 20 yards, obviously.

I personally find this technique way easier than using a single crawl because your tune never changes and (for me) I don't get the heebie-jeebies and start shaking like a leaf on a tree with a sight pin sticking out front. LOL; YMMV

Thanks guys. Tk each his own. I just ask for help and opinions. I will use what feels like its working and leave the rest. I will try all the sugestions though. I do try do be as much apart of a shoot and fellowship but i still aint keepin score. Good for those who like to but ive done my competition when i was younger. It got boring so i dont do that anymore. My happiness and enjoyment in archery far outways keeping score. Thanks again.

Never tried any type of site but I've heard of using a taped on toothpic as a temporary site

The benefit of tape is that it won't get knocked off or out of alignment. A single 1/4" tape in the right place can do the job.

Top middle and bottom of the single strip would likely cover 15-25 yards.

But don't you have to know the yardages then?

Move the tape until you are hitting as close to center of a known-distance target as you are able, then 'roam' around your range at various distances - holding the tape center mass and I bet you'd be surprised at the outcome.

Keep your focus on the target, not on the tape or your windage may be inconsistent.

I have a bear takedown with the sight that has the circle pins. 15 yards and 25 yards. That is my max and it works great.

You can mark the tape with a pen and set your yardage. There's many different ways to do it. Just have fun with it.

"I just like going to 3D,s and shoot but not even carry a score card.I shoot for myself and try to get better."

If you used to compete you oughtta know this already, but JMO if you want to get better, you've got to keep score just so you know if you're progressing or not.

And FWIW, I think the guys who've been at this for a while owe it to the younger set to turn in their cards so the new guys get a grip on what's possible, rather than contenting themselves with pathetic accuracy just because they think it's somehow More Traditional to be a lousy shot.

Tape on the riser should work if you shoot a vertical bow. Never done it myself. Probably would also work canted. Man can adjust to anything. Whether it would make you a better shot? Beats me.

I'm 100% with Matt/GF on this.

Everybody competes/competed in something...that doesn't buy any slack. As well, people who don't keep score disrupt the process for the people who want to fully take part. Hopefully nobody's there just to be around good people.

If your not shooting at the shoot I'd do as George said and just put a sight on it, just like a lot of guys in the 60's and before did. Heres a picture of Fred Bear using one in the 1920's before he got target panic and had to quit. So you see you'd be in good company.

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