From: Crow
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Would gt 600 be a good start for a 45 lb widow drawn to 27 in for about 43 lb. Arrows would be about 29 to 30 in. I have all 500,s now for my 47 and 50 lb long bows. Hoping 600 will work for the widow recurve.
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From: Earl Mason
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Yes GT 600's perfect match. Go for it!!!
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From: jk
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Try your 500s before you invest in 600s...
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From: Buglmin
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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You'll need a lot of wright in front of those .500's. .600's are perfect
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From: Crow
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Earl did you use to shoot at c&s archery martinsville in.
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From: fdp
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Kind of depends on how centershot or not the bow is, and the weight of the point. Also, string material is a factor.
Personally, I would order about 3 .700 spine CE Predator's from Lancaster and try those. Understanding that I can stiffen them up easily bu adding to the sight window.
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From: Crow
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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700,s never thought of it. Im so new to carbons ,i dont know whats out there
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From: Crow
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Hey earl i need some lessons. Just kidding but I have seen you shoot. You are a good shot for sure.
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From: Babbling Bob
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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I shoot 600 Easton Axis Trads with bows with draw weights between 40 to 45 lb with a 26-inch draw and 28.5-inch arrows and 4-inch fletch. They shoot great with the 75 grain Easton break off brass inserts and 80 to 110 grain points. Keep 70, 80, 90, and 110 grain points in the tackle box and switch occasionally. I could break off to a 50 grain insert or even lighter I am sure and still get good arrow flight. I think my arrows are too long but do have an old set of aluminums that I shot and hunted with long ago which are even longer.
First carbon arrows I bought from a shop that specialized in painted wheelie/cam bows sold me some 500 spines and they were too stiff, but the 600's in several arrow brands I have tried all work fine.
Crow - You should be good to go on 600's at 45 lb with a 27-inch draw and 29-inch arrows. Can adjust the point weight to tune but I don't see much difference with any point combinations I am using as far as getting excellent arrow flight.
Hope this helps
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From: Mika
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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I'm using 500 gold tips with my 47# Sitka. Cut to 28 1/2" with 100gr field points. Fly very nicely. I tried 600s and they were fine, but the 500s were better. Try your 500s with different point weights and see how they work. Go ahead and try some 600s and compare them to the 500s. Saving money by not trying different spines is a false economy. The arrows that don't work as well for you make a nice gesture to a new archer when you give them a couple of arrows. Spine isn't as important to an eight year old, but getting a couple of arrows from a seasoned shooter my give them the incentive to keep at it. You have found the right arrows for your bow, and made the day for a couple of kids. TheRC30Guy
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From: Crow
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Yes I agree. I just gave 6 legacy,s in 2016 to a young new archer.
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From: Tradarcher4fun
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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600s should work. May need to play with point weight.
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From: r-man
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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I got from Lancastor Archery some Carbon express 20-40's Predator carbon at 30, with 100 or 125g up front , and 4" feathers . They fly near perfect from a 40-45 recurve . They work good from 23-28" draws . They seem to work in several bow weights as advertised 20/40 who knew
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From: doug
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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700 would work better.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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I'd say you are on the edge but I don't know that bow's centershot.
On my Tradtech 45# I shoot 30.5" .500's with just 100gr points. Great flight. I was shooting 130gr but just dropped to 100.
Cut to 29" might be the tipping point.
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From: BUCKSNORT
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Goldtip Trads 35 to 55 . With A Bear Razor Screams outa my 46 Lb Fedora Takedown. or Port Cedar Shafts. Same Broadhead
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From: jk
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Evaluate the 500 you have and go nuts from there. Maybe talk to Big Jim's in-house-arrow-genius before you purchase anything.
I think you can make any of the other suggestions work if you play with your plate and point weight.
I like 600/145 GT Trads, as well as 600/160 "Warriors" (cheap and popular around here) from several 60# r/d longbows as well as an extreme r/d 53# (all plates tweaked close to center shot)...but that doesn't matter to you and your bow...
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From: jaz5833
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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600.....trust Earl!
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From: pops
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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I would shoot the 500's and try different tips first.
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From: Westksbowhunter
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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I am shooting about the same weight and draw as you. I shoot CE Heritage 90's with standard insert and 200 grain point cut to 27.5 inches. Bare shaft perfectly with field points and broadheads.
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From: rattlesnake
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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15-35# GT,...all day...= 600's...perfect for your setup.!
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From: gluetrap
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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when you cut the 600s they will be stiffer , same for 500. put a 200 field point on a 500 bare shaft if it is weak you may be good to go. even if it flys good you might not be able to cut it to the lengh you want. I know others with similar specs. as you that shoot 600s and some 400s and say they get good flyt. getting out and shooting will tell you more than all post combined lol....ron
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From: Bobby B
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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That's a long arrow for a 27" draw. Any particular reason you like them that long? Different weight points are cheaper than arrows you can't get to work so try what you already have with more weight up front before you buy anything else!
And fdp is right of course- it depends entirely on the bows depth of centershot.
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From: RonL
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Date: 04-Dec-16 |
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Crow I am not going to post as I dislike getting in these everyone has an opinion. I am very perticular on my arrows and bare shaft everything. My 42 # Bob Lee used to shoot 600 with a Dacron string. I pull an honest 29" draw. When I went to a D97 string I had to goto 500 all goldtips traditionals. My 43# Black Widow has fast flight string also and I was never able to shoot 600 out of it. In fact if I were to go back to hunting I would have to use 400 to get enought length for broad heads. So my advise at 15 yards bare shaft, bare shaft, bare shaft. I even bare shaft every new dozen shafts I get. And yes I found some that we're not the same.
RonL
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From: David Mitchell
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Date: 05-Dec-16 |
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I shoot 500s with 175 grains up front as that is about what my hunting heads weigh from my 45# bows. Excellent flight--cut to 29 1/2 back of point.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 05-Dec-16 |
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27" draw as Crow said he has is two inches shorter than an honest 29" draw. I would try the 500's if you already have them, but you will likely have to weight down the ends with at least 250 grains. Last week or so he was talking about struggling with getting more distance, so why would we want him to use a heavier arrow with even more weight up front? Even with low stretch string, you should be using 600 with arrows cut to 29 or 30 inches. If I were trying to extend my range with 3 under, I would be looking at the 600 or even 700 with 100 to 125 grain tips.
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From: smokey
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Date: 05-Dec-16 |
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Crow, I shoot a 46# longbow with 29" GT 500 and 600 with 145gr field point and I can't really tell the difference in arrow flight. They goth shoot the same, fast and true, as far as I can tell.
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From: jk
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Date: 05-Dec-16 |
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Hilarious thread.
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From: David Mitchell
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Date: 06-Dec-16 |
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Forgot to mention that my draw is 28".
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From: nrthernrebel05
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Date: 06-Dec-16 |
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they shoot great out of my 47# drawn to 27" about 44#. 29" with 145 up front.
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From: BigJim
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Date: 06-Dec-16 |
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Yes you can make them work even if it isn't right as it is... if they are too weak, build out the sight plate.
600's are perfect for that draw weight. If it is any of their recurves except the psr, it is cut 3/16" past center and will require a stiffer spine unless you build out the sight window.
Big advantage with an arrow that is too weak you say?...you can always work to make it stiffer with sight window, or maybe cut it shorter or less point weight or mix of all. Arrow too stiff?... generally your screwed. so I would say your in good shape.
good luck, BigJim
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