Late tonight, I went out in the driveway with the Pro Medalist and shot a 1/2" four shot group at 10 yards. I had 6 arrows but quit at 4 shots or I'd have broken one. These skinny target arrows (for 30 pound bow) cost more than any of my hunting arrows! In fact, I paid more for them than I did for the bow! Anyway, I measured the group center to center. I shot instinctive.

The reason I shot so close, is 10 to 13 yards is a very common hunting shot for me. I also like to work on my release at close range. Wearing a glove, it's hard to get a smooth release from a light-pulling bow. I think what I'm seeing is improved mechanics in my shooting. I know it's super close in, but to have all arrows landing on top of each other means there's some consistency in the release and sight picture. Unfortunately, the precision disappears at 15 yards. I have to figure out why. I'd like to see others try this close in release work. I can see a positive difference when I shoot my hunting bow.

Joe

Good shootin Frisky! We just shot our 40 arrow rabbit round. The body is worth 5 points, the spine 8, the chest 9 and the head 10. It really surprised me how many head shots I continued to make. My confidence was at an all time high. Shots ranged from 8 - 18 yards. Many of my hunting shots are close too. I find I always get frazzled when I try and land my 3rd or 4th shot in a group and generally miss. Sounds like a good training opportunity, so thanks Frisky!

Hi,

I believe frisky. I have a 66" / 44# PM5 and it shoots very tight groups - when I concentrate that is. I use a 14 Strand flemish braid FF string with padded loops on that bow.

I start at 10yds and increase every round by 5yds until I reach 25yds. With aluminum arrows, it´s a toss up whether it likes the 1814s or the 1916s better(both cut at 30"). The cheap Easton Inspires (€ 60/dozen) with 530 spine fly very fast and straight out of it, too.

The adjustable Hoyt Pro rest is a definite bonus on these bows cut past center - if you like shooting different diameter arrows.

shoot straight - skookum bow

Seems like what many would shoot when shooting those "bird shot" 6 inch field archery targets at the shortest walk across.

I don't doubt the group was tight, but 2 9/32" arrows touching side by side is a larger than 1/2" spread.

Somebody needs to revisit that bogus group thread, Yep sho do.

Shoula' seen the one that got away !

Ralph, are you saying that a holezone is a robinhood?

I'll do the same thing but closer when working on my loose. The only thing i do different is only shoot one arrow. I love building woodies but if i would shoot more then one id be in the basement all the time building arrows lol.

Keep up the good shooting and you will get there at 15!!!

Pictures or it didnt happen.

Scottsman, you know he can't be a legend if he shows any pictures of anything but a Make believe bow ;) JF

I slid them, side by side, into a group the size of a penny in outside diameter. That's how I measured them, lol! That should make them about 1/2" center to center. I didn't go inside the house to get my camera or ruler, as I didn't want to look like I was bragging. We're talking 10 yards! Anyway, they were packed tightly together. They were squeezed in so tight, two nocks were touching! Arrows are CX Predator 700s. I might try them out of my Drake.

Joe

I'll take a pic the next time and put an end to this bogus business. Stop and think about it though. If I could continue the feat to 20 yards, that would be 1" at 20 yards! I'd rule the world! For now, my groups are falling apart at 17 yards. I just can't figure out why I shoot right on top of each other at 10 yards, but tennis ball size, at best, at 15 yards. I'm shooting at night, standing in the dark, so it might be vision.

Joe

Your shooting doesn't surprise me one bit, Joe!

Herbie- I was wearing my Name A Bow After Me shirt too!

Joe

Don't blame the shirt when you start ruining arrows, Joe! ....but if it helps ;-)

In the dark,nobody around and No pictures. Definitely like a fish story ;) JF

just giving it back a little . Good shooting Frisky

BOGUS IS AS BOGUS DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frisky,, I shot about 10 yards most the time,,the light pulling bow is hard for me too, I really shoot better with a little weight, it helps my poor release,, I have been shooting at a small piece of paper at 6 to 10 yards,, practicing my deer killing shot,, well when I went stump shooting we shot out to 60 and 70,, and I was not that bad,, so the 10 yard shooting had kept me in pretty good practice,,

yep. The close in stuff helps. You don't have to worry about missing the target bag, so you can concentrate on the release.

10 yards is good for me also but is it realistic to think that a deer will not bust you that clse?? Just asking. Thanks

Close shooting on deer is not a good situation. It means you've set up too close. Actually, 20 to 25 yards is better, as deer are less likely to duck at the shot. I hunt in very heavy cover, on the ground, and I end up taking a 13 yard shot on average.

Joe

From the ground, I've killed deer at 7 steps to 25 yards, and many within 12 yards. Once you do it a few times, you get the hang of getting them close...typically by getting great cover on the outside of a turn in their path. Anyway, I'll take all the close shots I can get; those are usually good hits and short trails to follow.

That Hoyt Pro Medalist is the cream of the crop for the 1960's and even a few years into the 70's before Earl brought out his metal riser T/D. I shot my best field scores with one that was 34#, using 1716 arrows.

BS I'd say you shooting targets is one thing and shooting at a wild thing is another and I don't mean from game of Thrown s either Joe.LOL

Personally I'm actually having trouble seeing 20 yards That cataract I need done like yesterday must be causing more issues. I'm going to try to force myself maybe 15 and under or closer.

I had a 40 the other day and I could not see well enough to shoot and knew forget this don't dare do it. I'm glad your shooting good not me.

George- It's surprisingly fast for the draw weight. Those skinny carbons also penetrate the bag target fairly deeply.

Joe

RymanCat- You're old and basically washed up. However, if you use one of your Hunter- Flights, I think it will extend your career.

Joe

I've got an idea for you frisker. Set up a paper tuning set up at 10 yards at about a 45 degree elevation from where your standing. You know, an open frame with a piece of paper suspended across. Then, put a bullseye on it so that your arrows shoot through it and land 100 yards away. Your group at 100 yards will be 5 inches. Send the video off to kisik Lee, and you'll be living at the Olympic training center within the month. Forget being a teacher, you'll be subsidized by the federal government!! Can't wait to see you win the gold at the next Olympics!!

Probably is not what you want, but I used to have a 7 yard indoor range, and that was the only distance I practiced at. I learned to put my move on other distances by simply knowing where to look for the other distances. So if you simply set up at 15 yards and make the same 10 yd stroke at an imaginary point on that target where you know the arrows will arrive at the bull, you should do a lot better than terrible. Or just make the same stroke if all you are after are groups.

For me this was not a durable technique where I could go out and shoot 100 stumps and have it hang in there. But so long as all I knew was the grooved stroke, it was good to go.

Excuse me. Did you actually say "I didn't want to look like I was bragging ". LMAO.

All good points.

One thing about me is you'll never read a brag out of me. Just a discussion of the facts. Facts and facts alone. All else is bogus.

Joe

I shot tonight at 17 yards. I got in 10 minutes with the Hoyt before it started to rain. Though I wasn't warmed up. I began to take total control of the shot! I soon hope to move back to 20 yards and shoot a 300 round. Nobody seems to notice me shooting in the dark. If I can get good, I think this bow would work great for an indoor 300 round competition bow. I'd have to take off the sight, and I'm sure they wouldn't allow the stabilizers, but if I could cover the riser where the site holes are, to remove any marks that could disqualify the bow, I think this bow will work.

Joe

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