From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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A nice substitute for blank bale/blind bale when you don't have one handy. I was having a form issue where my 25-30 yard shots were going right. I closed my eyes and found my anchor, opened my eyes and rotated to aim keeping my for intact and bullseye...
I was getting distracted and adjusting my form to aim. And before any one says 'just grip it and rip it' I was shooting at a 3" target.
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From: Viper
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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JSD -
People are wired differently. Sure that technique can work, but opening the eyes can also serve as a trigger to release, which is the last thing you want. The other problem is that with your eyes closed, you may find your natural full draw or expansion. That's NOT a good thing, because with a lot of people that "expansion" is farther back than a usable anchor, causing you to rotate your head away from the target. With your eyes closed, you basically may not know where to stop.
Can it work, sure, but it has to be approached with caution.
Viper out.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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Grip it and rip it is mostly for those who miss it a lot of times. I've never found an advantage to closed eyes during form building, but as Viper says...people are wired differently.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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Viper,
I am not making it part of my shot sequence. Just as a correction when I suddenly start missing. Closing my eyes lets me concentrate on finding the anchor I already know when I have wandered away from it if that makes sense.
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From: South Farm
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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I did that to "reprogram" things quite a few years back when I developed a poor habit of not coming to full anchor and it helped me, so I agree with what you're getting at although I wouldn't make it part of my normal shot routine.
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From: GLF
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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grip and rip it ought to be, grip it, rip it, and search the grass for it.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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GLF, :)
Viper, when you said "The other problem is that with your eyes closed, you may find your natural full draw or expansion. That's NOT a good thing, because with a lot of people that "expansion" is farther back than a usable anchor, causing you to rotate your head away from the target."
That's exactly how I had been shooting for a while (on purpose). But I found it hard to keep it reproducible so now I am grooving in a different anchor. I've got a blank bale in my 73 degree basement so I can work it out without getting a heat stroke
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From: GLF
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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You'll know if you're turning your head to get more draw when you hit your nose,lol.
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From: shade mt
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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Like viper said I think everyone is different.
Every now and then, I go through a few practice drawing and aiming (I'm a gap shooter) concentrating , without releasing. First thing I do when I get on stand is pick a small leaf, rock whatever, draw anchor, concentrate ,let down.
I don't think drawing, anchoring holding and concentrating then letting down without shooting, is a bad exercise to do but I do it with my eyes open.
I think most of the grip it and rip it problem comes from always aiming while your drawing, and never practicing holding at anchor.
Personally I prefer not to put myself in a box. I want the ability to shoot quickly or hold and shoot.
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From: dean
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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When I was losing my anchor due to target panic, years ago, a college team coach told me to draw with both eyes closed and let down. Then my right closed and let down. Then my left eye closed, same. Then both eyes open and let down. Then shoot at that same sequence and timing. It took 15 minutes of doing that cycle and my target panic was gone. That was with a 36 pound target bow. I had a period when it hit me with my hunting form, the same routine fixed it for that as well. I have two friends that had both lost control with TP like issues. With one it took about a half hour and the other it took two weeks, but it worked. When I have a sloppy anchor or some other problem, that routine tightens things back up.
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From: jk
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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This is a valuable bunch of ideas, even though some sound less than serious.
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From: longbowguy
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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Sounds interesting to me.
I did some blank bale practice today, from about 5 feet, drawing and shooting with my eyes closed, focusing on the feel of may draw, anchor and shot execution.
But I don't always practice at that range so I will try the closed eyes draw.
Drawing past anchor isn't a problem for most of the people I have worked with. Getting all the way back to it is, and I think the key is feeling for it, in the back and not on the face. - lbg
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From: Northener
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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If you want to get really good at archery you have to conquer the mind. After that form can follow freely.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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If I don't pick and drop then I'm sideways. Eyes get twisted up. If I close my eyes its to visualize or in front of the bail close for form. Drop the string as I have a spot picked while I pull through anchor and release.
I would never try this at any distance especially with any arrow I really value that's sweet.
try the mind is the center of it all else generally follows.
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From: dean
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Date: 30-Aug-16 |
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One of the first things to get sloppy is the anchor with any form of snap shooting. I spend a period a very time I shoot, just concentrating on the anchor and release until it is automatic. It is a heck of a thing to need to think about when shooting a game animal. I am not sure that I am a snap shooter, when I plant the anchor there is fraction of a second of tightening before the release, not a hold or hesitation, a tightening. I shoot tighter groups if my anchor is less than one second. I tightened on a deer for about 20 seconds last year, it stepped behind a branch while I was drawing. Sure, what's the chance of hitting a finger thick branch at 25 yards. My past experience says that it is right 100%.
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From: TrapperKayak
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Date: 31-Aug-16 |
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Tried it, it almost worked. Sorry, could not resist... :^/
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