I really never had the desire to hunt that kind of game but I used to love watching those shows when I was a kid. Still do.

Thanks George, sure enjoyed the video.

Wow, what a way to bring back old memories… That classic video first watched on a Saturday morning was one of the first films to inspire me to hunt with a bow as a kid… The year had to be the mid or late 60’s…

Great stuff…. Not to incite a riot, but notice the powder trail of succinylcholine chloride to the Cape buffalo near the end… Classic stuff, thanks for sharing…

"Not to incite a riot, but notice the powder trail of succinylcholine chloride to the Cape buffalo near the end"

Okay, then why bring it up? This horse has been beat to death.

George thanks for sharing. Some of us are to young to have known the videos as they hit the TV, but they are WAY better then anything on today.

-Bones

Boy, that brought me back. Really enjoyed the video, thanks for posting George.

Never get tired of the old Bear videos!

Those were the days. Thanks George.

Thanks for posting! Been watching this in 20 min intervals when I get the chance. But ebony wood fire wood???

George - Why, because it's hard to IGNORE the obvious when they go back and show it in slow motion... If I didn't bring it up somebody else would... Geese, take it easy George, quit being so sensitive... As said, if it wasn't for Papa Bear, don't know if I'd have ever become a bowhunter, he inspired me and still hold him dearest...

Not sensitive, just get a little tired of that story that tends to put the onus all on Fred for the Pod. Some here even think he invented it. It was tried by many bowhunters back in the day, including Dan Quillian who wrote an article on the "Hypo Arrow"...the predecessor of the Pod. There were a lot more against it (thank Heaven) then were for it, and Glenn St.Charles worked to talk Fred down on supporting it. Dennis Ballard was also one very vocal on opposing it. In short order it was banned in all but one state...Mississippi. I don't know if Ms still allows it or if they just are apathetic about its use. I imagine it would be expensive as hell to buy and dangerous to use without care.

I also have a question for anyone regarding that shot by Bear. The Pods were sealed fore and aft and wouldn't release the fine white powder until penetrating an animal. And, there was less than half a teaspoon of SCC in the Pod to my understanding. So how would a trail like that occur from a Pod? Inquiring minds and all that. The amount of con trail on that shot would have needed about three or four Pods worth of SCC. What may be obvious to some, is not to all of us. If you look at Fred's arrows in his quiver...there are no Pods on any of them. Now they of course could edit what they didn't want in the film. I'm not convinced the editing couldn't have added that to show the arrow in flight. But still....the amount of smoke-like trail defies the tiny amount of SCC in a Pod.

My question is since the poison was inside a rubber balloon type thing hows it get out as the arrow flew. And if in fact that was poison and not a smoke tracer to show the arrow in flight how did the buff die if all the poison got out as it flew? that stuff is used for people in medicine so I am sure it would take alot to kill a cape buffalo.

Sorry George, should read ur post first,lol. But I agree, that's way too much to be pod.

For all you pod people, check out his arrow in the slow mo replay as he's draw it back. Smoke is on his arrow as he draws. You only see it in the slow mo replay tho.

thanks for the post George. Only problem I had with it was I blew way past my 1/2 hour lunch. lol

thanks for posting George,,

This is why I don't post much here anymore. Old timers here will remember that I was a regular here from day one. This post was just George posting a piece of nostalgia and look what it turned into. George is right, the topic of the pod etc. has been beaten to death. This post and George's post about wool socks at Wal Mart that turned into a Wally World bashing in addition to my own fiasco when I left Connecticut and moved to Texas are why I've become mainly a lurker. I see that nothing has changed!!!! (nut)

If it was a pod and not an added tracer wwhy is the smoke on the arrow as it's drawn?

This place is great!

First of all, the pod was patented by Fred...he held patents on dozens of things and never protected his patents. Fred did not invent SCC as it is a toxic chemical, invented by a Chemist. Fred was not the first to use SCC in a hunting application. Fred may have designed the pod delivery system, but certainly not the use of SCC in hunting. That happened many years before Fred got involved with it. Yes...he was in favor of it at first, and it never became legal to use. It's dangerous as hell. Here is what Liquid Amber posted a few years ago:

Liquid Amber posted the following awhile back on a 'Polar Bear' thread:

""There were four official "hunts" testing the hypo-arrow and the pod that I'm aware of. That isn't to mean there weren't lots of folks messing around on the sidelines with this system of chemical delivery, because there were. I'm listing these four and each had one or more articles published on them. I'm listing them here for historic accuracy as there seems to be a good bit of confusing when discussing this issue. And, there should be no problem with discussing the history as it is a part of our past.

1960 - Gillelan was the lone archer in the first testing of the hypo-syringe adapted to an arrow shaft. It was in Maryland. He took a deer for the attending scientists to sample during the testing. He gets credit for the first official hypo-syringe kill taken using an arrow to propel the syringe.

A few weeks later Gillelan was accompanied by Phil Lines, a wildlife supervisor in Maryland and Charles Marshall, graduate student from the University of Georgia on another test. Lines took a small buck.

1964 - Dan Quillian was invited to take part in a similar test in Alabama by Dr. Frank Hayes, head of the Southeastern Wildlife Disease Study. Dr. Hayes was present at the earlier Maryland study. Dan took a doe with the hypo-syringe.

1970 - Seminars on the pod and a hunt with pods sponsored by the Mississippi Game and Fish Commission. The following were in attendance: Jim Easton, Howard Gillelan, Bill Mortens, Fred Bear, Russell Tinsley, Byron Dalrymple, Jim Dougherty, Clare Conley, John Lanigan, Roy Hoff and Dr. Herrington. That's all I know for sure. One deer was hit and recovered.""

And no, I didn't know Fred other than talking to him on the phone. I did know Glenn and talked to him about the Pod. We didn't get into who was the first or whatever. He told me he personally thought it, the pod, shed a bad light on bowhunting as not efficient and that upset him. He worked on Fred to not promote it as well. That came from Glenn to me when I visited him in 1999.

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