From: Stickbow#1
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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Any of you hunt with these? If so...what method works best to sharpen them? Thank you!
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From: indianalongbowshoote
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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Simmons wheelie sharpener and crock sticks.. Have killed 2-3 big does with the big Simmons Tree Sharks, all with a 47# Super Diablo and around a 570 gr. arrow, 147 fps complete pass thru on all with really really big holes.
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From: fdp
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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A round file works well. 2 round files mounted parallel on a board to works even better.
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From: aromakr
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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Entrance hole on a Kudu cow, with a head made by Centaur archery that is a copy of the Simmons. That cut is 8" long Bob
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From: dm/wolfskin
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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I use the land shark and the interceptor. I use a diamond stone and take my time on the curve part or should I say I go slow.
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From: Arcus Pater
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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I made a good shot on a 200lb whitetail with a Zwickey 2 bld Eskimo. Deer flinched but not a strong reaction to being shot. It was a high entry on left Side and a low exit on the right. No bones hit. Took out both lungs. One dime size drop of frothy blood at site of shot, nothing else for the 50 yds the deer went before falling over. The exit wound may have been too high for a lot of blood, but was hoping for more than what I saw. A great result but had I not been able to see the deer the whole way it could have been a difficult recovery.
After that I tried the Simmons 135gr Tiger shark. They sharpen very well on the wheelie sharpener and crock sticks.
I shot a 215lb black bear at 15 yds from a tree stand. 30" 2020 from a 62# longbow with a tiger shark. Mid body entrance on the right, severed two ribs cleanly on entrance, sliced the top of the heart, severed one rib cleanly on exit then completely penetrated the left foreleg severing one bone before sticking 8" in the ground. Bear took off like a shot bear and left a constant blood trail for 30 yds before piling up.
The simmons bh makes an oval wound that I have not seen close. Great penetration, easy to sharpen, good blood trails. I like them.
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From: gofish
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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Get a jewel stick and a razors edge clamp and even I can get my tigersharks very sharp. Make big hole in critters too.
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From: Bode
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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What gofish said----its a 3 sided jewel stick course medium and fine. Google how to sharpen Simmons heads and there is a good tutorial on how to do it. It works real well
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From: bwd
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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Jewel stick, with or without the clamp.
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From: DerekMac
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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I just got Tree Sharks for this season and I can shave with them just using a round file, Accusharp and my pant leg.
I couldn't believe how well they shot given how big they are; matched my FPs.
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From: Curtiss Cardinal
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Date: 20-Jul-16 |
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I have traded for Simmons broadheads a couple times I alwyas get sent light heads that I can't get to fly well enough to my standards for hunting. The adapters I had didn't fit them so I couldn't add weight that way. I figure out a sharpening technique I like. Wet/dry metal aka automobile sand paper spray adhered to a 3 or 4 inch PVC tube. Draw it back like you're stropping the head.
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From: Stickbow#1
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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Thanks to all of you for the advice. I will be ordering some of these heads soon to get ready for our season opener which is in just a little over two months. Arcus.....I had a similar experience with Zwickey Deltas. I shot the deer a little far back and he had no clue what had happened so he bedded down in sight. I then took one more shot which was the only shot I had and put one right thru his neck. Both shots blew right thru him but when I got down to gather my arrows and track him I was amazed at the lack of blood. I found him by instinct because there really wasn't a trail to follow. But I found it and all was well. The pictures that people post on-line of the damage the Simmons cause are insane! Thanks again to you all!
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From: DT1963
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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I came up with a modified method using the jewel stick and the clamp sharpener that Simmons sales. I clamp the broadhead in the clamp and turn it to where it runs parallel to long side. I took my jewel stick and used duct tape to cover the bottom 1/2 of the exposed sharpening surface. I then lay this taped part against the wood and then lean it against the broadhead. This keeps the same angel as you sharpen and keeps the jewel stick from wearing down the wood. Once I get the new angle completed ground in with the jewel sticks (this is same process as using the razors edge only without it. I then turn the clamp 180 and finish up with the ceramic sticks that come with the simmons clamp sharpener. Final step is stropping with a leather block I made using old boot leather and a baseball bat.
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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I tried the Big Game head from Centaur. Also bought the sharpening wheels. All I can say it you have to be able to hold an angle. I gave up on them.
I can sharpen straight and blades curved the opposite way, but not them.
Pretty satisfied with Snuffer holes. This buck went 19 paces.
Bowmania
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From: sir misalots
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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First and only trad deer Ive killed was with a simmons. I switched broadheads and haven't shot a deer since? Maybe I should switch back?:)
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From: Cowboy
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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I use the EZ Lap diamond steels. The extra fine is oval and works great for the radius curved blades. I truly only use the round fine, and the oval ultra fine. Good Luck, Cowboy
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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Really like them not so easy to sharpen without correct tools though. They really leave a good gash too.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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This is the exit wound arrow pass through 175 head left side of deer was 1 /4 to me on ground. Animal dropped in 75 yards I guess he was on the run.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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Here's another carbon pass trough with simmons.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 21-Jul-16 |
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Wrong photo
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From: mgmicky
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Date: 22-Jul-16 |
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I bought the Steelmaster that Simmons sells...takes a little time but it works well. I shot a big doe last season with a Tiger Shark and she went about 40 yards and fell within sight
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From: TD2
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Date: 22-Jul-16 |
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Easily sharpened on a bench grinder. Use very light pressure
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From: NOVA7
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Date: 22-Jul-16 |
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I'm won the world championship of worst broadhead sharpener but I do a pretty decent job on Simmons heads w an accusharp
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From: Stickbow#1
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Date: 22-Jul-16 |
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Thanks again for all of the tips and advice! You were all a lot of help ;) RymanCat and Bowmania....real nice deer!!
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 22-Jul-16 |
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What is with someone making a copy of the Simmons that costs more, has fewer options, and Simmons is great to deal with. Some day someone in China is going to start selling really competitive broadheads for a few bucks each, and free delivery to world addresses, that might be tempting... But what is the upside here.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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Anybody who shoots any kind of broad head will end up with a blood trail that is hard to track at some point. I've never used Simmons heads, but I've shot a lot of deer with Zwickeys and I am very satisfied with their performance. MP
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From: Tajue17
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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here is how it is done,,, you will need a jewel stick...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNBQoVlz80
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From: Tajue17
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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also watch Chris's videos for some real serious tree shark kills
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From: Tajue17
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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sorry for the multi posts but I this forum has a glitch that doesn't allow me to edit my posts..
this vid shows how to sharpen with the simmons clamp which I have and I mostly do this one to sharpen my sharks and interceptors,, buy extra ceramic sticks if you drop one they break so buy extras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNK-5ctkkOg
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From: CD
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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I put this thread together with pics a while back on how I sharpen Simmons heads...
http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=263571&category=88#3692878
It works great, but I'm going to modify it a bit to reduce my sharpening angle.... I just haven't got around to it yet.
CD
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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Heres how I have been beating the high cost of any head is to buy them used. Most of the time they are new and unsharpend too. Guys get frustrated because they tried to sharpen 1 and gave up and sold or they couldn't get to fly right. I don't have any issues sharpening if I don't do well with one sharpener then I'll try another a lot of times sit at the TV and sharpen then get out vacum and clean up. I try to start out with heavier heads so when I sharpen down they get to where I wanted them. When I have sharp with a file just to touch up either the sticks or a Rada. As long as I can shave my arm its good enough for me.
I also take a rubber band stretch it out and if I can touch it and it cuts band then I figure that's my artery in the animal.
You can save a lot of money that way on heads and try to do it with everything. I hate paying high prices its unfair to us just because we want it and they know it.
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From: bwd
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Date: 23-Jul-16 |
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To prove a point, about three years ago, Chris killed eight deer with a 45# recurve, shooting a 450gr arrow, tipped with tree sharks. I would say, he proved his point quite well.
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