From: Bxrecurve15
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Anybody know of a bowyer who can put recurve limbs on an old Martin warthog compound. Thanks
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Another option... do it yourself, or if you know someone handy at woodworking have then help.
You can install these ILF plates and Warf the Warthog.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USAMade-Brass-ILF-Plates-Short-for- Wood-Risers-1-1-2-x3-4-x5-15-/152098124822? hash=item2369c13416:g:Qr8AAOSwZ8ZXCnsX
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From: Jim Casto Jr
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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You might also buy a set of Samick Sage limbs and make a Qwarf. You may have drill the riser and limbs and use an alignment pin.
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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The Dukes of hazzard bow!!
I just traded one to a memeber couple mounths back The riser tips are pretty flat i personaly would try the sage limbs route should just be a issue of drilling couple holes and gluing some threads in
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Who knew they shot 3 under? With a compound
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Even Daisy got into it : )
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From: mangonboat
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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If you're patient, you might get lucky with ready-made limbs. The Warthog riser was used to create heavy a limited number of takedown recurves suitable for African and Alaskan game and travel in small aircraft to such game under the auspices of East Side Archery in Chicago. These bows were sold as "ESA Takedown" or "ESA Nimrod" and the limbs were made, as far as I can recall, only for that customer. In the past couple years Ive seen maybe 4 of these bows on the market and every one came with two sets of limbs, reasonably heavy and very heavy, and they must have sold them with a travel case as at least three of he sets I've seen came with a nice padded soft case. This bow pre-dated the Hatfield takedown and , as I recall, Larry Hatfield was not a big fan of this pre-historic Frankenbow. You might search East Side Archery and find a couple of LW threads on this topic.
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From: Kent Alan
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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mangonboat: Unless I am mistaken, the limbs for the Nimrod and Warthog are not interchangeable. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Apparently the limbs for the older Hatfield---the OLD, bolt and ball bearing setup---are not the same either; one is thinner than the other.
I think I remember trying to put a pair of limbs for the older Martin Lynx takedown (with the magnesium riser) on the Warthog riser I had---no go. I had a Warthog, years ago...wish I never let it go...
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From: dgmeadows
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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I believe the limbs for the Nimrod will fit the Warthog riser. I have one of the original Martin Take Downs (pre-Hatfield) It looks like the one in your pic Kent Alan, as it has the additional wedges where the limbs attach to the riser. My riser has a bit more yellow tint in some of the laminations.
If you do a search here, you will find a thread in which Larry Hatfield talks about Martin asking him to design a recurve limb for the Warthog riser. That was not the bow that was labeled the Hatfield recurve. I have seen it referenced several times as the Martin "A-Model" take down. I know the model number on my Martin "A" model take down matches the model number on numerous Warthog wood risers I have seen. The limbs have separate model numbers that have MTD (notice the lack of the H for Hatfield, which was added later, when Larry designed a different riser that did not require the wedge on the limb.
The question is whether the Nimrod was in fact a special high-weight run of the "A-Model" (Pre-Hatfield) Martin Take Down. I believe it is, but Hatfield would be the best source on that.
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From: camodave
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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I must be getting old...the first thing I noticed is that draw length of that bow is way too long for Daisy
DDave
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From: Muttly
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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I,'ve got a Warthog, pondered putting recurve limbs on it. Don't think it,s quite the quick and easy process I was hoping for, probably gonna be selling or trading it off..
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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I have one as well. Was going to have it converted to ILF. It seems pad angles are not desirable. It would have been a $200 project. Limb bolt inserts have to be removed and pads need to be milled. As I got the riser for free I may still try it as a summer project.
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From: Muttly
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Is that 200 to get it ready for limbs, or does that include puttin limbs on?
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Dave,
If ya saw Cathrine Bauch nowdays that would be the proper thought : ) IMHO
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Muttly, just to get it ILF ready. I know that included plates which added to cost. I have plates. There is enough wood there that I may be able to adjust angle when I rout out grooves for plates?
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From: NickG
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Date: 27-May-16 |
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Mountain man,lol
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From: fdp
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Date: 28-May-16 |
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You can easily convert those riser to accept ILF limbs either using ILF hardware, or removing the hardware and using the limbs as bolt ons. Limb pad angles on that riser are simple to change with a hardwood or phenolic wedge to match the riser color epoxied and or screwed in place.
All you do is bolt the limbs on the riser, center them up, mark the limb for an alignment pin, remove the limb, drill the hole, epoxy in the pin and you're done. Takes about an hour beginning to end.
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From: Muttly
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Date: 08-Jun-16 |
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I,m all right until I wander into the garage, then I see that Warthog hanging up, and I can,t resist picking it up. The idea of turning it into a recurve just won,t quite go away..
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 08-Jun-16 |
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Anyone know if the limb bolt inserts are threaded into wood? I want to remove them for routing.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 08-Jun-16 |
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Yes, the inserts are threaded in.
Rick
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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Thank you Rick, I had a feeling they are. Bow had 80# limbs. Threads give more glue area than just a straight hole. Guess it is off to hardware store for a couple big bolts and a new tank of propane for my torch.
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From: GLF
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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yeah they used helicoils threaded into the wood. The warthog is the same riser as the MTD (martin takedown) that preceded the hatfield so you might find some mtd limbs for it.
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From: snufer
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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Back in the mid 80s I had a Warthog with both compound limbs and recurve limbs I took it to Ontario on a do it yourself bear hunt, I shot a bear with the compound limbs, then I put the recurve limbs on the Warthog, and the last day of our hunt, we had a hit on one of our baits, and neither of my friends wanted to sit on the new bait, so I went to town and bought another license, and shot another bear with the recurve. had 82# limbs for the compound and 65# limbs for the recurve. The Warthog was my favorite bow at this time, and I still have 3 of them on my wall.
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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I have the Warthog from Mountain Man, and it is a neat bow, I have been shooting it a little as is and it's quite a work out for me since my draw is 27" and I believe the bow to be somewhere around 40". <--- LOL Anyway. I have been studying it a bit and I think I will be trying the Sage conversion at some point. I want to try to "shim" in the right pad angle so once I buy the limbs I will start playing with that part.
-Bones
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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Once I remove inserts my plan is to route in the correct angle besides the groove for the ILF plates. I may end up adding some more wood to the area as well for cosmetic reasons.
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From: Muttly
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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What limbs are you planning on using?
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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I have a set of TT Carbon Foam longs I want to try.
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From: cjgregory
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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"Who knew they shot 3 under? With a compound"...Mountain Man
I shot split finger with a compound. Martin cougar magnum. I've never used sights though. Tried them once and trashed them.
That was a bad arse bow. Of course the compounds are too short now to use fingers. Shot autumn orange 2219's out of it. Tipped with a bear razorhead.
When they were getting rid of the razorhead my buddy and I teamed up and bought 100 of them bulk from Bowhunter wharehouse in Pennsylvania. I remember because we were Marine grunts stationed over seas and had to pay the postage.
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 09-Jun-16 |
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Always shoot three under from a moving car thats hillbilly rule number 1
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