From: Frisky
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Been meaning to update you since last Friday on my efforts to get us an outdoor range. I started in 2012 and was shot down. All I did was send an email to the head of the local park & rec, and she read it to the city council. The next thing I know, reporters were calling me and stopping over, wanting to get a story. I went into hiding, and the park people shot the idea down. Last summer, I tried again. I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper. They were so starved for material, they gave it a big headline and again I was shot down. I really wanted a range, so I wouldn't have to drive 20 miles, round trip, to my Legend's Range and back, every time I wanted to shoot. Of course, I told the city people I wanted it for the kids, HAHA!
This past winter, MTQuiver called and wanted to go stumping in the local WMA. I told him it was illegal. So, I called the DNR and had that confirmed. Then, they told me they wanted our town to have a range, and they'd pay for it! They sent me a grant form and I passed it to the city. The mayor and city administrator want the range. The grant would cover complete construction of the range, but the sticking point is maintenance. I told the park board people a range can be as high or low maintenance as you want. DOES ANYONE HAVE ADVICE on ways to make ranges fairly maintenance free? If I can get this range in for 2017, I won't have to spend so much on gas, and they'll eventually name it after me!
Joe
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From: Lost arrow
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Depending on the type of range you are referring to. Will it be a 3-D, field archery course, or Olympic style? I have experience with 3-D and field and have some ideas that may help you "Little Buddy".
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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https://www.archerytrade.org/uploads/documents/ATA-Archery-Park-Guide-Final.pdf
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Usually, a club takes care of a public range. It is self serving but when public land is involved an individual or club has to provide a service to the public. For you alone it would be a PITA. You would be the go to guy for everything that could go wrong. Also you could end up on someone's "sue them" list.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Thanks for the info folks. I'll read the park guide.
I want a short, easy to care for range, but the mayor wants something different. I also don't want to do any of the work, just bum off the range once it's up.
Joe
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Frisky, I built a 20 target range on my place. Took 3 years to get it to the point where all I have to do is mow the paths, put the targets out and trim just a few branches. It is laid out very safe and user friendly. AND it helps to have a handful of grandkids that are good stick picker upers.
My backhoe/front end loader was a life saver as I put bunkers behind all of the 3 d targets.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Jon- Sounds great! The city would build the range here. However, they want others to do upkeep. I'd rather have a range that requires no upkeep. Maybe just a gravel lot with a dirt berm, with grass planted to keep it in place or a large array of netting, like 3Rivers sells, and no berm. It would be on floodplain land, so netting might make the most sense. I'm also looking at a maximum shot distance of 40 yards. In fact, 20 would be better. I want a small place where one could shoot and not worry about a little brush here and there. The sissy Olympic guys could go get their own field. That's the way I'm thinking at this point.
Joe
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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boarder edge with landscape timbers then plastic on the ground and mulch. usually free from tree trimmer services and power company use timbers to make post to hold bag targets only maintenance is targets once a year. the park near me has one at 20-30-40-50yrds. in the summer no one ever there. biggest time is sep - oct .not all target need replaced the far ones usually last a long time use chains with the links you crimp together to hang them and keep people from walking off with them.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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Good ideas bigdog! I like the idea of putting down plastic and mulch. I'll mention it to the park department.
Joe
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From: Therc30guy
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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That's the dumbest idea I ever heard! Not really, just that a Frisky post is supposed to be aggravating and somewhat stupid. How about starting a club and part of membership is once a quarter you get together and have an upkeep work party. You can supervise. Paso Vista park (Chandler AZ.) has a range with targets from 10 yards out to 90 yards. The city of Chandler owns and runs the park but the Paso Vista Archery Club is responsible for upkeep on the range. There was a work party in January and about 30 folks showed up. We weeded the range surround and some more skilled workers rebuilt the target butts. Did the whole job in about 3 hours. Probably won't need any work on it again till after summer.
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 02-May-16 |
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I was just thinking of how the dark wood chips would make frisky turquois bow stand out better then pain grass.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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I emailed the mayor and gave him word for word suggestions here. The park board meets this Weds, but I'm hoping I get out of going. I want a range but don't want to get stuck doing anything for it. I don't have ambition.
Joe
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From: DanaC
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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I don't know if 'stumping' is illegal here, but there are species such as chipmunks with 'no closed season'. So if I have a hunting license and a couple judo points, I'm legal. ;-)
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From: crabbyt
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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frisky trying to help out and do something good for others? This story has to be bogus
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From: reddogge
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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I still didn't get what kind of range this would be. If just a practice range you can make covered stands for the butts.
A 3-D range would be next in complexity involving cutting and maintaining a circuitous walking trail, shooting lanes, etc. Then you have to buy the 3-D targets and have somewhere to store them and a 4 wheeler with a small trailer to put them out and take them in. They would be stolen in a heartbeat where my club is located.
A field course would be involve the most land, longish walking trail and shooting lanes with overhead trimming to allow arrows to hit at 80 yards on the long one. Of course permanent stands and butts for the targets.
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From: Therc30guy
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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"But don't want to get stuck doing anything for it". So we are all safe! Frisky isn't really doing something for others.
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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Hay frisky I got a great Ideal make a 3-d target of your self. they will sale like crazy probably put Rinehart out of business.
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From: crookedstix
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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Frisky, You need to get in touch with some Boy Scouts; this would be a perfect Eagle Scout project for some kid to do. Plus, part of that is that they line up all the volunteer labor themselves, so you'll only have to show up for the ribbon cutting and naming ceremony.
Boy Scouts are far more likeable than you, and they're good at raising money too. Let them do the work. You can advise them on what bows they should acquire, and proper shooting form, hunting techniques, and so on...maybe even score a consultant's fee!
I think you should look for a corporate naming sponsor--you know; they pony up the money in exchange for having the venue named after their company. I see a Spam Archery Range in Austin's future.
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From: Arcus Pater
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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Perhaps you are approaching this incorrectly. If you shoot the Holy Grail Bow there, is this not Hallowed ground?
A range named Home of The Holy Grail would be difficult to vote against.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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Home of the Holy Grail is a good idea, as is recruiting Boy Scouts. I just wish someone else would do the labor and get the thing done for me. I don't see why I should be the one doing everything to get a range, even if I'm the only person asking for one.
Joe
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From: Gorbin
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Date: 03-May-16 |
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Frisky, the key to achieving what you're looking for, a self maintaining range, is the same as it for many niche endeavors- finding like minded people with time on their hands. To wit- it's amazing how many folks, particularly the young ones, will volunteer their time for little in return. Say, free range time. And of course, do appreciation from those benefiting. Simple public recognition of their efforts will often mean more to them than you'd think. And then there's what you have to offer- your mentorship and archery wisdom (ahem) can go a long way for those looking to learn a new skill or improve one they've started. Sure, you just want a range that's convenient. But what you could end up with is a community of archers to share that range with. In my estimation, that's worth a whole heck of a lot of effort. Even you are the only one asking.
-Gorbin
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From: Frisky
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Date: 04-May-16 |
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Gorbin- You obviously are a thoughtful and generous person. I'm just the opposite. I'm impulsive and selfish and want a range NOW! Plus, I'm too lazy to do much of anything to get it. I think taking the grant form to the mayor was good enough and others should do the work to bring the thing to fruition. My idea is to get a range, don't help anybody get started in shooting, and end up hogging the whole place. Shooting by myself and enjoying life with no distractions is my goal. I have that situation out at Legend's Range but have to drive 10 miles to get out there.
Joe
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