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50's, 60's Yellow Glass?

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moleman 1 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
Blackhawk 06-Feb-16
JLBSparks 06-Feb-16
fdp 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
fdp 06-Feb-16
Knifeguy 06-Feb-16
fdp 06-Feb-16
George D. Stout 06-Feb-16
George D. Stout 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
Thin Man 06-Feb-16
George D. Stout 06-Feb-16
bodymanbowyer 06-Feb-16
bodymanbowyer 06-Feb-16
moleman 1 06-Feb-16
PaPa Doc 06-Feb-16
PaPa Doc 06-Feb-16
PaPa Doc 06-Feb-16
MStyles 07-Feb-16
From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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Ive got this old longbow that I presume to be from the late 50's or early 60's. 64 inches 48@28 with Yellow glass on back and White on the belly and no makers marks. Just curious as to what bowyers or manufacturers used Yellow glass back then.

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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From: Blackhawk
Date: 06-Feb-16




Some of the Howatts had tan or faded yellow-colored glass. Or is it possible it was white and has just faded to yellow?

Does bow have a number stamped into the window?

That's likely not a Howatt, but stranger things have happened.

From: JLBSparks
Date: 06-Feb-16




I have a '61 Alaskan that has yellow glass on the belly.

-Joe

From: fdp
Date: 06-Feb-16




Can't really tell from the picture due to the glare but is it a mustard color?

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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Yes, it is a mustard color. The only marking is the 48 pound spec. that is stamped into the riser which I highlighted because it was very,very shallow.

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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From: fdp
Date: 06-Feb-16




My first guess then it is that is an old Herter's. And that the glass is the old German Farbenglass, Somebody will come along that will know.

From: Knifeguy
Date: 06-Feb-16




I agree with fdp. possibly an older Herter's from the late '50s or early '60s. Lance.

From: fdp
Date: 06-Feb-16




Interesting how that old 50 or so year old longbow has a "modern" recurve type riser isn't it? Just goes to show there ain't a lot new in archery.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Feb-16




Are their tip overlays...if so please show them. More than one company used yellow glass. Black Hawk (Cravotta Brothers), Bear, Indian Industries, and likely others. That riser shape may be saying American Archery. They also pressed their numbers into their bows. Nee do see the tips.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Feb-16




"there" not their.

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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Heres a couple of tip pics. No overlays, and both upper and lower tips are nearly identical.

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16

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From: Thin Man
Date: 06-Feb-16




Mr. Stout et al, “There”, “Their”, and “They’re” are the “Three T’s of Turpitude” that baffle and befuddle both budding and blue-ribbon bloviators all too often. (Indeed, even the word “bloviator” can be alternately spelled “bloviater” depending upon which source one consults … as I have just found out while typing this. In fact, some dictionaries don’t recognize this as a word at all. However, humans invented and developed their language, and I reserve the right to continue this tradition.)

Us (sic because it sounds better to my ear) southern folk figured out a simple solution to this situation some time ago. We use the word “thar” interchangeably for all three terms. And should we decide to write within our own dialect’s ear, all confusion between the “T’s” is rendered moot.

“Hey, look over thar!”

“It surely is thar pickup truck I’m a’seein’.”

“Thar a’comin’ over t’ play checkers and drink Gertie’s sweet tea.”

A simple sentence follows with all three of the turpitudial (sic again) “T’s” in play and is quite easily understood by them that drawls:

“Looky thar at that thar truck … thar a’comin’ over with thar checkers.” However, when one is attempting to write using the more erudite and formal English conventions, the Southern dialect may not reside comfortably within many ears across this vast nation (unfortunate, but true). Therefore, one could propose a compromised modification of the English language … a new spelling … that finally puts to rest the semantic obfuscation of these three words while at the same time condensing and streamlining generic sentence structure. For instance, we could adopt the spelling of “thr” for all three. “I beg your pardon, but would you be so good as to look over thr?”

“It most certainly appears to be thr automobile that I observe.”

“Thr arriving to join us in for game of checkers and the consumption of Gertrude’s most excellent sweet tea, which will, of course, be served promptly at 6:00”

And thr ya go!

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Feb-16




I'm going to say American Archery in Clarendon Hills, Il. Only due to the design of the riser, which is nearly identical to their early Cheetah recurves.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 06-Feb-16




George beat me to it AA Cheetah. It's missing the leather grip. JF

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 06-Feb-16




I had one that was yellowy butterscotch on one side and white on the other. A guy out east has it now. JF

From: moleman 1
Date: 06-Feb-16




Thanks everyone for the help. AA never crossed my mind, but now that I have compared the grip to my old Cheetah its pretty spot on in size and shape. Paul

From: PaPa Doc
Date: 06-Feb-16

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Mine has a nice grip on it still.

From: PaPa Doc
Date: 06-Feb-16

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From: PaPa Doc
Date: 06-Feb-16

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From: MStyles
Date: 07-Feb-16




Thin Man, brilliant, really. Moleman1, My first reaction to your bow is that it's a Herter's "Itasca" Longbow. The maple lams are in the right place, etc. However, all the Itasca's I've ever seen had black belly farbenglas, not white. Could be AA. PaPa Bear, Your Cheetah with the stamped red Cheetah leather grip makes me crazy. To date yours is the only one I've ever seen like that, and I've seen and owned quite a few AA Cheetahs of the Clarendon Hills made bows. AA did use a pale yellow glass on their lighter draw weight bows. My first laminated recurve from AA had that yellow glass. It was pale green on the back and yellow on the belly, no tip overlays.





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