I've seen a few ads with this phrase: "and does have some cloudy glass common for that time period, I believe it is a 1998 model."

Could someone clarify this for me as I am considering a fine bow but it has a cloudy glass finish. Was this the type of glass they were using around 2000 or is it just in the clear coat?

Seems like it went across a few manufacturers

Type "cloudy glass" in the search box and hit "keyword", you'll get information on the issues with Gordon glass beginning in the late 1990's and even in today's current production.

It's a mfg. issue that rears it's head from time to time and nearly always has.

So is there any problem mechanically or is it just comsetic?

From what I've been told, it's just cosmetic. The bowyer told me that you won't know of its streaky until after glue up. I've had 2 new bows made in the last 2 years and both were streaky. I get that it happens but it seems different to me when it's my bow - lol

Yep just cosmetic from my perspective, you can see that some pieces will be streaky before glue up but others don't show until after. Colored glass never comes out with streaks in it that you can see, they are hidden by the dye.

It also gets cloudy shortly before it delaminates! Especially if the cloudy is contained in the working part of the limb. Had a longbow do that!

Also said the streaks show up more so with dark lams underneath.

there is a difference between cloudy patches and streaks. like SB posted, cloudy patches can be the first sign of a delam due to glue starvation. if you are buying a bow, get pictures.

Thanks, I will ask for more pics before committing to buy. I think it's generally cloudy all over.

Yo High Valley, Around about that time I took a bow building class from Jay St. Charles and he told me that that was what he was getting from his fibreglas supplier but that he had no alternative. Archery is a very minor market for the companies who make our laminations and our string fibers. I bought one of those bows from Jay and it worked fine but had a bit of cloudiness, not noticeable beyond 4 feet.

I also made myself and Cascade Yew English-style longbow under Jay's tutelage.

I have a question for you Randall: have you considered using your father's instruction in making pistol handles to make some fine recurve grips? Those of us who favor vintage Hoyt recurves could use a few. Probably a lot of other folks could too. How hard could it be?

Feel the shot. Steve

Hi Steve, Maybe I'll start by making one for my Darton/Sage Frankenbow!LOL

Missed most of the shoots last year, but plan on making more of them this year!

We here at Sarrels Archery have suffered also from streaky glass. No hinderance to performance but just looks crappy. I pay extra for clear glass cause I want to see thru it. I have had to have a few sets of limbs hydrodipped due to streaky glass. No problem in the last 50 or so bows using uls glass as opposed to ul glass. Lots of cool colored glass available now too. Just gon in 40 strips of Grayling green and 40 strips of red

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