From Alaska Bowhunting Supply's website: "Shoot GrizzlyStik Samurai single bevel broadheads powered by the right arrow and you’ll never have to worry about bone hits again."

We all noticed you are back with your expertise on archery and bowhunting, Dustin. We will just remain ignorant until experts like yourself can save us from ourselves. LMAO.

I'm sure this is not the first time a vendor has exaggerated the performance of their product. Won't be the last time either. Bigger things to worry about than this.

Not even worthy of a thread. But while we're at it, which is the best longbow?

Agreed Dustin, we have but our own experiences for recall. Ours differ of course, but yes...such is life. Hope all is well in Oklahomey.

Pure hype. All the way around.

All they're saying is that this head is designed to be unbreakable under the kinds of impact forces that archery equipment is capable of producing.... Which, compared to a steel-jacketed bullet, really isn't saying all that much.

After all, if you don't shatter a heavy bone, it's because you chose the "wrong" arrow.

Based on what I've seen posted here, it does appear that single-bevels have at least as much going for them as regular heads and I'm thinking of trying some if the price doesn't run into too much of a premium...

But I'm not expecting them to absolve me of my responsibility to choose my shots wisely and execute them properly.

Agree with Ollie and GF. Pure marketing. I'm sure their "right arrow" would be a Grizzly Stick which, of course, they sell. For the tidy sum of $200 you can get six arrows with broadheads from them that will kill the biggest, baddest whitetail that ever walked. Don't worry about aiming for a kill zone. These things are like hand grenades - just hit the deer.

For $700 you can get their North American Package - 18 arrows and 12 broadheads. If you have any desire to hunt Africa, (of course that means you have money) you can get their Safari package for just $90O. Oh yeah, you get hats too.

Weatherby Syndrome (some here may remember what that was) applied to archery. I wondered when that would happen.

I think ABS's target market is compound hunters shooting 70-80lbs plus. In that case, shooting an 80lbs modern compound with that arrow setup, I think the sales pitch is pretty much reasonable.

"Weatherby Syndrome (some here may remember what that was) applied to archery. I wondered when that would happen. "

Oh, you mean when the old venerable .30-30 took countless deer over the decades but then we were told we had to have 7mm magnums or you will be undergunned and the deer will run away wounded.

A better comparison would be the old Winchester '94 in 32-20 cal. I thought that was a great gun until I noticed my arrows out of a Kodiak Magnum were considerably faster than the bullet. However, if I had formed those bullets into single bevels and fired them through a Weatherby they would have been good for anything from squirrels to grizzlys. Of course, if the squirrel saw them coming they would just move out of the way.

Speaking for the compound guys, there are plenty of indestructible, rock crushing, high speed broadheads that fly better at 300 fps.

I shot a deer with an Alaskan carbon, the arrow flew through it like the old hot knife through butter, somehow I felt cheated, the broadhead never even touched a rib. What good does all bone busting power do if it doesn't tag at least one rib? While I do not doubt the effectiveness, I still will do my best to not push my luck with bone hits.

Marketing hype to it's fullest.

Enough arrow is worthless, unless you have enough bow, especially when heavy bone is in the way.

Rick

"... powered by the right arrow..." That is absolutely true.

Powered by the right bow, you can shoot a #8 rebar as an arrow, and you can use a sewing needle as a point as well.

If you build it, it will bust it. Normal setups wont. A good single bevel with a footed arrow, driven hard enough is a totally different ball game then the normal setup. No denying it. Too much proof to say otherwise.

Is it necessary? Nope. Is it, by design, a better penetrating arrow? You bet it is. If you can handle the bow to drive it, you can shoot angles normal setups are way off limits too. God Bless

Disagree

DDave

At $30 each they should not only go through bone, but field dress the carcass before you arrive.

I don't try to blow through bone so it's not a concern for me . . . even if they made a glue-on.

c'mon guys...

These are marketed at such levels for a reason. The prices are not for the under- or unemployed. These products are aimed (sorry) at men with good jobs and plenty of means to afford them. These are guys who don't have a lot of time to practice, might make poor shots, and need the superior performance they offer. I thought everyone understood that common shafts and broadheads were for the low income crowd which has time to shoot every day and stay accurate.

While I'm here...anyone know where I can get some 2117 Gamegetters?

What was the setup you used in the photo you showed Dustin: bow, bow weight, arrow, arrow weight ?

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