Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


world record typical whitetail deer

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Stevo 27-Aug-15
Chief RID 27-Aug-15
S. North 27-Aug-15
Buzz 27-Aug-15
HillbillyKing 27-Aug-15
Buzz 27-Aug-15
sneaky 27-Aug-15
Nrthernrebel 27-Aug-15
redheadlvr 27-Aug-15
killinstuff 27-Aug-15
Stevo 27-Aug-15
specklebellies 27-Aug-15
Stevo 27-Aug-15
Barber 27-Aug-15
Stevo 27-Aug-15
sammy b 28-Aug-15
Arvin 28-Aug-15
BTcaribou 28-Aug-15
guins1971 28-Aug-15
arrowchucker 28-Aug-15
Wheels2 28-Aug-15
tinecounter 28-Aug-15
Bob W. 28-Aug-15
IaHawkeye 28-Aug-15
4t5 28-Aug-15
Frisky 29-Aug-15
Monte 29-Aug-15
Threeundr 29-Aug-15
Castor River Calls 29-Aug-15
TrapperKayak 29-Aug-15
South Farm 31-Aug-15
RymanCat 31-Aug-15
UnderTheRadar 31-Aug-15
lostarrow68 31-Aug-15
WV Mountaineer 31-Aug-15
From: Stevo
Date: 27-Aug-15




On Oct 29,1965 , a young man from peoria county Ill. , shot a giant whitetail,on a friday after work. He shot it with a 72# howatt recurve,fiberglass arrows, and a 2 blade eskimo zwickey broadhead. The deer netted 204 4/8 inches ( typical). He is still alive today ,just a modest elderly country boy.It will be 50 yrs this october,and the record still stands (for a bowhunter). dispite the fact that there is 10 times the number of deer and hunters ,with rediculious high tech equipment. Does anyone know what model howatt bow he used? Was it a hunter? Did they have alot of different models way back then?

From: Chief RID Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Aug-15




That record will likely never be broken. Not with a trad. set-up. There just ain't enough of us and sorry to say most shoot like me. Congrats to that young man. I hope he is still hunting.

From: S. North Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Aug-15




U do mean Mel Johnson. He signed a pic for me year ago of him and the buck

From: Buzz
Date: 27-Aug-15

Buzz's embedded Photo



Can't tell.

From: HillbillyKing Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Aug-15

HillbillyKing's embedded Photo



Met Mr Johnson 2 years ago it couldnt have happend to a better guy and yup I got a signed pic too !!!

From: Buzz
Date: 27-Aug-15

Buzz's embedded Photo



Here is HillbillyKing's pic

From: sneaky Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 27-Aug-15




Nice to see he is still around and doing well.

From: Nrthernrebel
Date: 27-Aug-15




Would love to meet him too.

From: redheadlvr
Date: 27-Aug-15




Is Mel Johnson left-handed or is the pic reversed?

From: killinstuff
Date: 27-Aug-15




Have the "trad" police ever countered with, well you can't eat antlers on this one????

From: Stevo
Date: 27-Aug-15




Yeah,I think he might have been a lefty. How about that bow! Goes to show you, you do not need all that technology,you just have to practice a little, sit still and get lucky.

From: specklebellies
Date: 27-Aug-15




Never get tired of seeing pics of that buck. I couldn't imagine having something like that at bow range. Speck

From: Stevo
Date: 27-Aug-15




Did you ever see a bracket like that to attach a quiver?

From: Barber
Date: 27-Aug-15




That is just cool ! I did not know what the record was, thank you for posting this .

From: Stevo
Date: 27-Aug-15




I think he put tape on the lower quiver bracket because it made noise when he shot.

From: sammy b
Date: 28-Aug-15




I wonder what kind of deer lure , food plot , scent free clothing, trail cam, uv blocker and barstool biology deer management he used to take this stud?

From: Arvin
Date: 28-Aug-15




None probably . I love seeing the hunting shirts of days gone by. I still hunt with those on occasion. See just as much game too. Nice deer for sure. Arvin

From: BTcaribou Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 28-Aug-15




From the Prairie State Outdoors web site.

Johnson buck remains archery record

Hunters have bagged millions of whitetail deer in North America since the 1960s.

Bowhunting techniques have evolved, new products have emerged and equipment has improved in the past 42 years.

Yet the Peoria County buck Mel Johnson shot in 1965 still ranks as one of the most impressive whitetails ever killed with bow and arrow. The Metamora hunter’s 13-pointer is an archery world record for deer with a typical rack — antlers that are basically symmetrical.

Johnson’s buck is not perfectly symmetrical. It is massive. Three tines are longer than 12 inches. The inside spread measures 23 5/8 inches and the right main beam is 27 5/8 inches. No wonder Johnson earned The Boone and Crockett Club’s Sagamore Hill Award (right) in 1965, a medallion bestowed by judges for trophies of “great distinction.” Illinois Outdoors

In the years since, time and ailments have slowed Johnson. Over the last three years alone he underwent six operations on his heart, hands and knees. But he still plans to be in the stand for Monday’s Illinois archery deer season opener, hunting a small property in Knox County with his Martin compound bow.

“I go every day I can,” he said, though the hunts are not as frequent as they were in the 1960s.

Back then Johnson worked full-time at Caterpillar Inc. and hunted each night after work. Most fall weekends he left work on Friday and drove to Wisconsin with friends — often returning just in time to work Monday morning.

“We’d hunt all week in Illinois and maybe see a few deer, maybe not, and then go up to Wisconsin just to see deer,” Johnson said. Seeing whitetails recharged his hunting batteries, though that wasn’t really necessary in 1965.

That fall Johnson spotted a huge buck three times without getting close enough to shoot. Then came Oct. 29. That evening after work Johnson set up in brush along a picked bean field. The wind was in his face.

“We didn’t have that many tree stands around then,” Johnson said. “We were just starting to dabble with them and build them.”

From his vantage point, Johnson saw the buck again. This time the deer emerged from the timber 300 yards away. From there Johnson said the buck walked “smack dab in front of me, probably three or four rows of beans away.”

Close. Almost too close. Fortunately for Johnson the wind did not shift. Nor did he.

“(The buck) turned and looked right at me, took two or three steps and I shot him right through the lungs,” said Johnson, a left-hander who was using a 72-pound Howett recurve bow and a Zwickey broadhead on a fiberglass arrow.

From there, the buck ran into the field and disappeared over a rise. Johnson gave chase and found his arrow, which had passed through the buck. Then he saw the deer.

“I had a hold of him when he was still kicking on the ground,” Johnson said.

Antlers were not the only impressive features of the 4½- to 5½-year-old deer. The Beanfield Buck field dressed at 270 pounds, weighed an estimated 340 pounds on the hoof and had a thick, swollen neck. Unlike today, there was little hoopla about antlers. The only prize Johnson won locally was for an archery contest at a Pekin store.

“People ask me what I got for killing that deer and I tell them I got a dozen arrows,” Johnson said. “They weren’t even good arrows.”

Over time, Johnson has become somewhat of an archery icon and has befriended or hunted with the industry’s most famed figures.

But he never got rich off his Beanfield Buck. In fact, Johnson does not have the actual mount, which belongs to Bass Pro Shops. Overlooking the recliner in his basement is a replica, mounted alongside a few plaques.

Illinois Outdoors

Nearby is a photo album that includes a scoresheet measuring Johnson’s buck at 194 4/8 inches. That was filled out by the lone Boone & Crockett scorer in Illinois at the time, a Chicago resident whose tally left Johnson deflated.

“I had a book put out by Minnesota that showed the world record and I knew it was bigger than that,” Johnson said.

Eventually he realized the scorer left off a 10-inch measurement. A panel of Boone and Crockett scorers later agreed the buck rated 204 4/8 inches. No bowhunter has bagged a better typical trophy since.

Someday Johnson expects the record will fall, but he’s not worried. While Johnson still enjoys the thrill of the hunt, the thrill of being a record-holder is less powerful.

“It was exciting for awhile but now it’s old shoe,” Johnson said. “There have been so many stories written about this buck.”

Now there is one more.

From: guins1971
Date: 28-Aug-15




Thanks for posting the story BT.

From: arrowchucker
Date: 28-Aug-15




If he was a Lefty it violates all of Frisky's laws and be declared ineligible as a record. Frisky what's your opinion on this subject?

From: Wheels2
Date: 28-Aug-15




Stevo, That is an old Bear quiver. I never found one of them that didn't vibrate and rattle like crazy. We just didn't know any better so we used them.

From: tinecounter
Date: 28-Aug-15




Mr. Johnson is one of the most modest, down to earth individuals I’ve ever met. Years ago, but it was a most pleasurable experience

From: Bob W.
Date: 28-Aug-15




Does anyone know what model Howatt that is? Kinda looks like a HiSpeed, tough to tell for sure.

From: IaHawkeye
Date: 28-Aug-15




Bear 8 arrow snap on quiver.

From: 4t5
Date: 28-Aug-15




I think the CAMO makers just started crying, no high tech footwear either. Reading todays magazines, you wouldn't think it's possible.

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Aug-15




The deer was taken legitimately, from behind a brush blind. However, the feat is greatly diminished by the fact the shooter was a lefty. I'd knock points off the rack for that.

Joe

From: Monte
Date: 29-Aug-15




Thanks to all for that memory. Now I need to get back up to Bass Pro Shop and see him for myself. Loved the old microflite fiberglass shafts.

From: Threeundr
Date: 29-Aug-15




That is a beauty for sure. Great story.

-Leonard-

From: Castor River Calls
Date: 29-Aug-15

Castor River Calls's embedded Photo



One of my favorite paintings. Notice Mel painted in on the left of the screen at full draw ready to release the fated arrow shaft.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 29-Aug-15




Beautiful deer esp. with a bow. At 270# it must have been a tough drag out. What an accomplishment!

From: South Farm
Date: 31-Aug-15




First off, I will say I am turned off by the whole record book aspect of big deer...although I am impressed by a big set of antlers. Having said that, I am way more impressed with record bucks like Mel Johnson's, Jim Jordan's, or any of those taken before the days of food plots, trophy leases, or "quality" deer management...back when the focus was on the hunt rather than the outcome and all the hype became focused on growing big racks rather than lucking into one. It just seems now-a-days that if you aren't doing all the right things to grow a big deer and managing your property that you're somehow old fashioned. These old guys doing it the hard way and still managing to shoot some of these monsters that nobody can seem to beat is what impresses me. I hope Mel's buck never gets beat, but I'm sure it will one day on some highly managed and manipulated property...probably from a box blind on a food plot if my guess is right.

From: RymanCat
Date: 31-Aug-15




Awsome

From: UnderTheRadar
Date: 31-Aug-15




Great thread! Congrats to Mel and his awesome buck! We should all be so lucky!!!

From: lostarrow68
Date: 31-Aug-15




I'm with you South Farm, I hope it stands for ever. I'm also sure someone will find new ways of pumping deer full of whatever mineral or feed supplement to grow a new record. I guess fair chase has changed a lot now with everyone having their 5 year old killing their first 120+ deer from a heated, scent proof ground blind with a 400 fps crossbow after watching it for 2 months from pictures sent to their cell phone. Not much fair, not much chase. My hat is off to all of the scouter/hunter guys.

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 31-Aug-15




Great deer and a great guy from what I hear.

Stevo, he killed that deer with a trad bow because that is what he had. Not because he was a better hunter than compound hunters. God Bless





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