From: zonic
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Anyone use Arizona Z Glue-on nocks? I'm shooting B50 14 strand w/ #4 serving - which fits Bohning Classic Nocks just right, but that big index tab doesn't fit in the Bitz. Been shooting old Martin Nirk nocks, but they don't snap on the string. Thinking about giving these Z's a try... Any others? The Marcos were nice for skinny 12 strand FF string - but they'll be way to tight on this B50.
Thanks, Steve
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From: raghorn
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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You can remove the nock receiver from the Bitzenburger and drill the holes out larger so your nocks will fit.
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From: zonic
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Is that something I can do freehand with a power hand drill? Some special kind of bit I should use for that? Thanks raghorn.
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From: grizz
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Bearpaw nocks work fine. Been using them for about a year now. Indexer is very low profile
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From: zonic
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Thanks grizz. They have a similar fit on the string as Bohning Classics? Are they available from anywhere in the US?
Thanks, Steve
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From: grizz
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Get mine from KustomKing . They are very similar to Bohning, without the high index. Also at a very good price.
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From: raghorn
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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I just drilled mine out with hand drill with 1/2" metal bit. No big deal.It's just aluminum. It's not like it has to be an exact fit, just needs to let a larger nock into the receiver.My Bitzenburger dates from 60s, maybe even 50s. I have a friend who really is a rocket scientist, so he gets to do the deep thinking and exact fit of parts. The rest of us can just simplify and outsmart inanimate objects..
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Modifying your Bitz is kind of a permanent thing.
And you can use you old nocks to fletch your arrows and then glue on the nock you are going to use on the arrow. I never glue a nock onto an arrow when I fletch whether it be wood or metal. I clean up the nock end with some 120 grit sand paper and twist the nock on the raw shaft. It will stay there well enough to fletch your arrow. Remove and then glue you nock on.
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From: zonic
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Thanks guys. Just ordered some Bearpaws from Kustom King to try out. Would rather not drill into the faithful old Bitz. I don't get why the most common glue-on nock doesn't fit into the most industry standard fletching jig...
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From: Orion
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Hmmmm. I have a pretty old Bitz and am able to get Bohning classics into the nock receiver. It does leave a little notch/groove in the nock indicator, but that just helps identify it by feel. I consider that a plus.
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From: zonic
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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I'd been sanding that little notch/groove off of my nock indicators. It bothered me :)
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From: stickbowhntr
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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OMG what's the issue with drilling the BITZ? Its only a jig and will never be worth $1000 so drill it and don't look back.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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To me the issue would be going to another type nock that the drilled out indexer won't except. New indexers cost a few bucks especially if its a 50's Bitz. But it is a mute point as he is going to buy a new jig and preserve his Bitz.
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From: aromakr
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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I don't understand why guy's comment on things that they have absolutely no knowledge of!!!!! Listen to raghorn, drill the hole out in the jig body to 1/2" after removing the nock receiver, it will not effect using any other nock. I have drilled all 36 of my Bitzenburgers and use nocks as small as 1/4" without a problem. Bob
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Maybe just some of us older guys are slow learners aromaker. I still wouldn't modify a jig, but rather twist a nock onto the arrow that fits inside the indexer and then remove the twisted nock and glue any size nock on the arrow you want. In 50 years I have never glued a nock on an arrow and then fletched the arrow.
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From: arrowchucker
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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On Bohning Classic I just sand down the indicator a little bit. It doesn't take much. 2 or 3 strokes with some 120 grit and your good to go. Why drill out the jig for a tiny bit of plastic?
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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Drilled out mine in 1979. The old Bjorn nocks would not fit either. It was a lot cleaner than some guys using a large rat tail file. I know guys like the indexer but I never really found them necessary even nocking the Hill way. (Without looking). Just re fletched 3 doz. old gamegetters using AAE nocks. I like the straight sided nocks better.
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From: Orion
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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I'm not averse to drilling out the shaft channel, I guess I've never found it necessary. I've never had a problem getting any nock to seat. If the jig leaves a little mark on the nock indexer, so what. When I'm target shooting, I have plenty of time to look at my arrow to get cock feather up if I want it there. When I'm hunting, I don't care where the cock feather is positioned. The arrow shoots the same either way. Worry about a little nick in the nock indicator? I don't think so.
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From: Biathlonman
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Date: 29-Jun-15 |
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I love the AAE Znocks, fit about like a gold tip Nick if your familiar with those. Will be a little tighter then the bohning.
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From: longshot
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Date: 30-Jun-15 |
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Take a large pair of toe nail clippers (curved kind) and snip the indexer. It will remove a tiny sliver and then it will fit in the hole. Been doing that for years.
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From: zonic
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Date: 30-Jun-15 |
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Thanks Biathlonman. Just what I was wanting to know. I'll probably give them a try then if for some reason the Bearpaws don't work out... or if I need a slightly tighter fit - like if using Traditional serving instead of #4. They're not as tight as the Marcos are they?
longshot - that's a great idea! Love it. Will definitely do that next time I have Classics going into the Bitz.
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From: Snag
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Date: 30-Jun-15 |
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You can drill out the opening of the Bitz with a forester bit. ALL nocks will fit the opening without marking them up. As for the Bear Paw nocks...I like them. But they are a slight "snap on" type nock. Not the same as the Bohning Classic.
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From: aromakr
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Date: 30-Jun-15 |
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The factory hole in the Bitzenburger is 7/16" by drilling it out to 1/2" your only increasing the hole by 1/16" or 1/32" to each side. Your not hurting a thing. When the Bitzenburger was designed none of the nocks had such a high index and a larger hole was not needed. Bob
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From: zonic
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Date: 30-Jun-15 |
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Thanks aromakr. Understood.
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