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41# longbow 400 spine arrows?

Messages posted to thread:
Boogaloo 17-Apr-15
Whittler 17-Apr-15
longbowguy 17-Apr-15
r.grider 17-Apr-15
Boogaloo 17-Apr-15
Boogaloo 17-Apr-15
Arcobsessed 17-Apr-15
Bowmania 17-Apr-15
Stringmaker 17-Apr-15
RayJ 17-Apr-15
Boogaloo 17-Apr-15
Ron LaClair 18-Apr-15
Str8 Shooter 18-Apr-15
Deadringer 18-Apr-15
BigJim 18-Apr-15
Boogaloo 19-Apr-15
pghrich 19-Apr-15
Orion 19-Apr-15
From: Boogaloo
Date: 17-Apr-15




I've been shooting goldtip 55/75 due to bad arrow flight with 35/55 GT both using 125gr. Points. The 55/75 shoots fine even when bare shafted. Is it my shooting style?

From: Whittler
Date: 17-Apr-15




Out of a 41# bow you should be shooing a 1535 600 spine. I think you are getting a false reading. Have you bare shaft tested wih those arrows.

Question what type of bow, and is it 41# at your draw length.

From: longbowguy
Date: 17-Apr-15




The proof of the arrow is in the shooting. If they go where you are looking you are good to go. - lbg

From: r.grider
Date: 17-Apr-15




I agree with whittler, you would need 55/75's full length and a half pound of weight on the front to spine even close to that kind of draw weight. you need the 15'35's or 35/55's weighted.

From: Boogaloo
Date: 17-Apr-15




Bareshaft tested through paper and at around 10 yards and shoots straight.

I'm shooting a super shrew carbon 58" 41# at 28".

From: Boogaloo
Date: 17-Apr-15




Thanks guys for the advice. Appreciate it.

From: Arcobsessed
Date: 17-Apr-15




Depends on your draw length first and foremost. As whittler said, is it 41 lbs. at your draw?

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Apr-15




One of the problems with carbon and paper. A shaft can be so stiff there's now flex and they shoot good through paper BUT will not shoot where you're looking.

Compare impact points between bare and fletched shafts. You'll be shooting .600.

Bowmania

From: Stringmaker
Date: 17-Apr-15




My experience with Goldtips, I would go with 15/35 (600 spine) with a 145 grain point to start. this could be a little stiff, but shooting style, release, arrow length, arrow shelf depth can play a part . . .

Michael

From: RayJ
Date: 17-Apr-15




.600 spine for sure and that could be stiff if cut too short.A lot of guys are even shooting .600's from bows 48-50 lbs.I've always used .600's for my 44-45lb bows until I got a 44# Centaur and I'm shooting a 29" .500 with 275gr up front out of it.A .400 for 41# is wayyyy too stiff.False readings are common and fletching will hide spines that are off.Try that .400 bareshaft and with a wide broadhead and see what you get.If it still flies good then I stand corrected.

From: Boogaloo
Date: 17-Apr-15




Thanks, will give it a try.

From: Ron LaClair Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Apr-15

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"I'm shooting a super shrew carbon 58" 41# at 28"

Well no wonder, "CHAIN LIGHTNING"

From: Str8 Shooter
Date: 18-Apr-15




I have two bows around 41-43 at my 27" draw. One shoots a .700 spine with 125 gr tips, the other a .400 spine with 125 gr tips.

Centershot, tune and the shooter have a huge role. Huge.

Oh, and the lighter bow that shoots a .700 spine is actually faster pound for pound so speed isn't always a factor.

From: Deadringer
Date: 18-Apr-15




That is funny Ron :-)

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Apr-15
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Bows that are "center shot" not center cut can shoot nearly any arrow even if it is not normally considered the correct arrow.

The shrew is likely center cut. The reason it looks good as someone mentioned earlier is that the bow is not flexing the arrow and driving it straight forward but off to one side. Eventually the shooter adjusts for this either conscious or unconsciously. It will however affect broadhead flight and arrow penetration.

I would bet money that you are experiencing wear on the shelf material...glaring sign that your arrows or bow aren't doing what you think they are doing.

But hey, if you are happy, I'm happy. Might want to consider this, if you are able to shoot arrows 2 1/2 spine sizes too stiff, what does that say about how messed up your form might be? again, I would bet it isn't you being so messed up but really unable to see the issue.

Bigjim

From: Boogaloo
Date: 19-Apr-15




Your right! My shelf is material is getting worn out pretty fast. I really need to work on my form to correct this. Thanks.

From: pghrich
Date: 19-Apr-15




hello, your form and the correct arrow spine, how is your arrow flight at 20 yards and further? if it is good to your eye and hits where you expect then you must be doing something right, just goes against all logic, rich pyle

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Apr-15




An arrow that's too stiff isn't going to affect the shelf material much. Rather, it will chew away at the side plate. Of course, if you're nocked very low, the arrow can work on the shelf as well.

I've found that a lot of high performance bows cut to center and particularly past center (i.e., centershot) will handle spines a lot higher than the marked bow weight. Sure, there's probably one best arrow length, weight, diameter, spine, bow weight, draw length, point weight, etc., combination, but most of us aren't good enough to find it. If your arrows shoot good for you, don't worry about it.





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