Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Oneida bow fishing bows.....

Messages posted to thread:
TJ 15-Apr-15
greyghost 15-Apr-15
George D. Stout 15-Apr-15
Fulldraw 15-Apr-15
KyPhil 15-Apr-15
Ghostinthemachine 15-Apr-15
KyPhil 15-Apr-15
Ghostinthemachine 15-Apr-15
buddyb 15-Apr-15
GLF 15-Apr-15
RymanCat 15-Apr-15
sdbow 15-Apr-15
Wildhog 15-Apr-15
Wildhog 15-Apr-15
sdbow 15-Apr-15
soldier 16-Apr-15
GF 16-Apr-15
Bernie P. 16-Apr-15
PhantomWolf 16-Apr-15
Gutpile pa. 16-Apr-15
mission man 16-Apr-15
Bobmeister 16-Apr-15
CD 16-Apr-15
Pago 17-Apr-15
wango 17-Apr-15
Grey Fox 17-Apr-15
raghorn 17-Apr-15
SteveD 17-Apr-15
Wildhog 17-Apr-15
buddyb 18-Apr-15
TJ 19-Apr-15
From: TJ
Date: 15-Apr-15




I see Oneida bows used for bow fishing quite a bit. What makes them so popular? I am sure im going to sound stupid, but isn't it a bit redundant to have both recurve limbs AND a pulley system? I am by no means trying to "trash" talk them. I am sure there are very good reasons why they are so popular, I am simply curious as to what those reasons are... Thanks! TJ

From: greyghost
Date: 15-Apr-15




I have an old Oneida Tom Cat that has taken several deer and is a great bow. Most people trash em because they don't know how to tune them or get them quiet so they make fishing rigs out of em. They are very forgiving and have a long sight window making it easy to use the AMS style reels.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Apr-15




At first glance one should note there are no cables to shoot through like in a tip anchored compound. That is likely the main reason. And they look cool.

From: Fulldraw
Date: 15-Apr-15




The major advantage is they draw like recurve with no cam let off and they are very fast. Used to use them in bowfishing competition. Tom

From: KyPhil
Date: 15-Apr-15




I sold one a few weeks ago and the fellow who bought it said he uses them for bow fishing. I asked what the advantage was and basically said the same thing as Fulldraw, that he could half draw it for a quick shot at fast swimming carp since it had little let off.

From: Ghostinthemachine
Date: 15-Apr-15




They certainly do have cam generated let-off. I guess I don't understand Fulldraw's post? They are slow compared to newer compounds as well.

I'd wager people like them for bowfishing because you can shoot them with fingers.

From: KyPhil
Date: 15-Apr-15




I think it is a combination of attributes, I believe the fellow I mentioned also said something about using fingers. I know the one I had did have let off but it was on the lower spectrum compared to compounds with 80%. I never shot or bowfished with one.

From: Ghostinthemachine
Date: 15-Apr-15




They're still being made and the let-off is from 50-80% depending on the model.On most models it's 65-80%.

From: buddyb
Date: 15-Apr-15




The one I had shot really well, it was just really physically heavy. I think the newer ones are lighter. It shot heavy arrows very well and had 65% let off at full draw. You can shoot flu flu arrows since you don't have the cables like on a regular compound. It's like a recurve but with less holding weight.

From: GLF
Date: 15-Apr-15




lmao, this is so funny. Back in the late 70's and 80's guys used old recurves in the 40-45lb range to shoot carp and suckers with. I sold em for 30 bucks and doubled my money. Now guys are using compounds when they got good recurves that work better. Well in my opinion they work better. Plus shooting that much in the spring with a stickbow builds your strength to the point you'll shoot much better at the 3d courses or hunting.

From: RymanCat
Date: 15-Apr-15




Thats the bow I used when I stoped all tricked out its a great bow with an Ames real. I set my shelf up with a roller and that made a big differance arrows snap swivel on the leader on the arrow. But that a modern bow real not sticks.

I broke a piece on mine and was wondering if I could get some parts. Anyone know anyone who might have some parts. I'll take a picture later when I get some time so ya can see her.

From: sdbow
Date: 15-Apr-15




Call Claude. They still stock parts I believe.

From: Wildhog
Date: 15-Apr-15




Greyghost is right. Most people don't know the first thing about them as far as tuning and such. I have a friend who is an Oneida Guru and he is handy to have a round. Those things were really ahead of their time. I have a couple of them and they are a blast to shoot. They have recurve limbs and you can shoot them with your fingers so they are cool in my book!

From: Wildhog
Date: 15-Apr-15

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I like them alot. Here is the crew.

From: sdbow
Date: 15-Apr-15




Nice stable hog! Have you shot the kestrel. I bought one and somehow my buddy commandeered it.

From: soldier
Date: 16-Apr-15




I use to have one. Liked it a lot until the lower limb slapped the inside of my thigh while shooting from a tree stand while sitting. Left a nasty bruise. They were easy to work on once you figured them out.

From: GF
Date: 16-Apr-15




" isn't it a bit redundant to have both recurve limbs AND a pulley system? "

Isn't that kind of saying that s static-tip recurve is kind of redundant because it has both a static tip and a working section???

I think the idea is (at least in part) that it gives you more leverage to bend an even shorter, stiffer working limb....

The most interesting (and potentially most controversial) thing I've heard about these is that (with the higher let-off models at least) a hunter seated in a chair or tree stand can draw the bow and rest the recurved portion on his thigh... essentially 100% let-off - at least until you lift the bow off of your leg again....

Personally, I've always thought they should build one with an extra-long, Tradstinctive Grip riser. Shoot it off the shelf with fingers and tweak the cam profile so that stored energy ramps up extremely early and draw force tails off gradually to a fingers-friendly holding weight...

From: Bernie P.
Date: 16-Apr-15




I got the SE600 when it first came out.In it's day it was one of the best.Great for shooting without sights.All my friends thought I was crazy shooting without sights but I loved it.I think having a clear view contributes to it's popularity for bow fishing.I tried shooting my Bowtech without sights but I found the cables a little distracting.

From: PhantomWolf
Date: 16-Apr-15




I have two from way back when, a Screaming Eagle and a Strike Eagle. The Screaming Eagle I had my autobody cousin paint the same maroon color as my 1988 Silverado, it came out great. I shot both without sights, really liked them and still have both, they're mint. Have thought about selling the Screaming Eagle but haven't been able to make the move, old memories I guess, who knows. Sometimes I can't figure myself out.

From: Gutpile pa.
Date: 16-Apr-15




Any body want to trade one of those bows for a recurve???

From: mission man
Date: 16-Apr-15




I used to shoot a couple, they were the smoothest drawing easiest pulling compound bow I ever shot, extremely slow and way loud plus it's hard to work on them in my opinion.., they're good on bad shoulders is about all I can say, I finger shot a screaming eagle and a 500 model.

From: Bobmeister
Date: 16-Apr-15

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I used to shoot a Black Eagle. They do have finger pinch, I released with two fingers.

From: CD
Date: 16-Apr-15




I have had several... H250, H500, and an SE600, I special ordered the SE600 when they first came out... and I was the first one in our area to get one.. It was definitely a talking piece back then! lol Man I wish I still had that SE600. I currently have a Tomcat that I use for bowfishing.

I really like the Eagles... smooth draw with very little valley. Dead in the hand and really efficient at pushing heavy arrows.

CD

From: Pago
Date: 17-Apr-15




Aero force x-80 here, these bows were shooting 300 plus before most. Like others I have found those that say they are loud don't know how to tune them. I shoot carbons in mine now drawing 75# and hitting 282 fps. Great for shooting bare bow like I do, can't stand sights

From: wango
Date: 17-Apr-15




Parents bought me a Ted Nugent Whackmaster Oneida for Christmas one year with a matching quiver . Still have the bow and have owned others . Always liked them myself . There was another company that made one similar in design .

From: Grey Fox
Date: 17-Apr-15

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I prefer my simple cheap Sage and Zebco.

From: raghorn
Date: 17-Apr-15




Motor cycles and compounds here...times are changing.

From: SteveD Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Apr-15




They are one of the few "hi tech" bows that retain most of there value over time,and have a small but very loyal following.

From: Wildhog
Date: 17-Apr-15




I am needing an outboard limb for my old Screaming Eagle if someone has one laying around :)

From: buddyb
Date: 18-Apr-15




You can try contacting the people at American Eagle bows, he may have a limb or can build one for you: http://americaneaglebows.com/

From: TJ
Date: 19-Apr-15




A huge thanks to all who responded! One of the reasons I love love love this site! Thanks again, TJ





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