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Why waste an arrow?

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Rick Barbee 31-Mar-15
coxral 31-Mar-15
GF 31-Mar-15
Jim Davis 31-Mar-15
George D. Stout 31-Mar-15
Rick Barbee 31-Mar-15
Fuzzy 31-Mar-15
Rick Barbee 31-Mar-15
AndyB 31-Mar-15
kenwilliams 31-Mar-15
RymanCat 31-Mar-15
Stikbow 31-Mar-15
Tom McCool 31-Mar-15
arrowchucker 31-Mar-15
robert 31-Mar-15
Buzz 31-Mar-15
Jeepman 31-Mar-15
Stick in TN 31-Mar-15
N. Y. Yankee 31-Mar-15
4nolz@work 31-Mar-15
Rick Barbee 31-Mar-15
BusAL 31-Mar-15
widowshooter 31-Mar-15
George D. Stout 31-Mar-15
Jakeemt 01-Apr-15
Rick Barbee 01-Apr-15
Tom McCool 01-Apr-15
wood 01-Apr-15
Fuzzy 01-Apr-15
bwd 01-Apr-15
Rick Barbee 01-Apr-15
George D. Stout 01-Apr-15
Rick Barbee 01-Apr-15
Widow sax 01-Apr-15
N. Y. Yankee 01-Apr-15
Grey Fox 01-Apr-15
Chief RID 01-Apr-15
Rick Barbee 01-Apr-15
Pointer 01-Apr-15
Wudstix 01-Apr-15
Catskills 02-Apr-15
DixieBow 02-Apr-15
From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Mar-15




I figured, that since he was hung in the fence, he just wouldn't be able to put up much of a fight.

I jumped off the top of the corner post onto his back, and grabbed his antlers with left hand, with knife in my right. At this point he let out a growling bawl, and exploded into 1000 directions all at once. Reminiscent to that of one mean ass saddle bronc I once had the displeasure of getting to know.

The rodeo was on. We went under the fence, over the fence, and through the fence what seemed like a million times, but somehow I managed to stay mounted on this demon of which I was gaining lots of respect REAL FAST.

Finally the cold steel blade of my Boy Scout Western did it's job across his jugular, and he lay quiet for the first time in what seemed like an eternity.

I stood there dripping blood, which was a mixture of both his, and mine. I picked up my hat, placed it back on my head, and then tipped it to this mighty steed, acknowledging to him my respect for his strength, and lust for life.

Good fight Old Feller, I thought to myself. I'm damn sure glad you had one arm (um leg) tied behind your back, or you might a kilt me.

My brother, with eyes as wide as saucers looked at me, and said -

"You're a !@#%ing IDIOT !!!!!!!!!"

The End

Rick

From: coxral
Date: 31-Mar-15




:)

From: GF
Date: 31-Mar-15




If you were my size, Rick, you woulda figured out that kind o' thing LONG ago!

Glad you're OK!!

From: Jim Davis
Date: 31-Mar-15




Wow Rick, I thought you had better sense...You seem so level-headed on the 'wall. ;)

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Mar-15




Walt Wilhelm and Ken Wilhelm.

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Mar-15




Jim, I was 17 years old & thought I ruled the world. 8^)

Rick

From: Fuzzy
Date: 31-Mar-15




your brother was right ;)

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Mar-15




Correction: I was 19 years old. The brother of which I spoke just reminded me of that.

Fuzzy, I didn't argue with him about it. The truth of it was way to obvious. 8^)

Rick

From: AndyB
Date: 31-Mar-15




Yes, your brother was wise beyond his years. It's amazing when you think about it, that most of us make it to adulthood.

From: kenwilliams
Date: 31-Mar-15




I can only imagine the strength of a deer. Never wrestled one, but I always marvel at the strength I have seen them display over the years. I have a 5' high fence around my garden, which I have witnessed innumerable 75# deer casually walk up to and easily jump over and could probably clear 6' if they had to. I will take your word on deer wrangling Rick and save myself a butt whoopin.

From: RymanCat
Date: 31-Mar-15




There was a time when I would have taken the head and put it under a someones covers.LOL

Then I got harnessed the bit is tough along the trail.LOL

From: Stikbow
Date: 31-Mar-15




yep, youth has courage and little regard for the latent danger before them.

From: Tom McCool
Date: 31-Mar-15




How did that young rabbit get caught in the fence anyway?

From: arrowchucker
Date: 31-Mar-15




Wathed my buddy grad a small 3pt mule deer with its head up and was going to cut his throat. Deer jumped backwards with Terry riding and went backward over a barbwire fence and landed on terry!! He hung on for a bit but the rodeo was on!! it made it about 50 yds out into the field and got clobbered w a 270(it was gun season)

From: robert
Date: 31-Mar-15




I never thought of hunting deer with a knife, sounds like a real good idea.

From: Buzz
Date: 31-Mar-15




Good story.

Thanks for the smile as well.

From: Jeepman
Date: 31-Mar-15

Jeepman's embedded Photo



No it was a squirrel not a rabbit,you should have took one look and just walked away....lol Jeepman

From: Stick in TN
Date: 31-Mar-15




courage is indirectly proportional to sense. If you don't have any sense you will appear to have a lot of courage....

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 31-Mar-15




Great post Rick! Let that be a lesson to all. Never forget the tenacity for life that an animal has and how they will fight to keep breathing. I would have used an arrow though.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 31-Mar-15




if you cant be smart you need to be tough

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Mar-15




[[[ 4nolz@work said: "if you cant be smart you need to be tough" ]]]

That's a fact. Thank the Good Lord I got smarter as I got older, but he didn't allow me to do it to quickly. 8^)

The buck was a 2 year old 6 point. Field dressed just a tad over 100#

The camp ate real good that weekend. 8^)

Rick

From: BusAL
Date: 31-Mar-15




I saw a fella grab the remaining antler of a buck that had just had the other one shot off. It didn't take him near as long to let go as it did you.

From: widowshooter
Date: 31-Mar-15




This has been around for a while....but still a funny read!

I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they congregated at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up -- 3 of them.

I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me.

I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation.

I took a step towards it... it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and received an education.

The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope with some dignity. A deer, no chance.

That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I originally imagined.

The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many animals.

A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head.

At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.

Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to have it suffer a slow death, so I managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before hand... kind of like a squeeze chute. I got it to back in there and started moving up so I could get my rope back.

Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist.

Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head -- almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.

The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now) tricked it.

While I kept it busy tearing the bejesus out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day. Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp.

I learned a long time ago that, when an animal -- like a horse -- ; strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.

This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy.

I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run.

The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.

Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.

I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 31-Mar-15




Well Rick. You don't look stupid at all now. LMAO.

From: Jakeemt
Date: 01-Apr-15




^^^^ Really?

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-15




Well, it took a lot longer than I thought it would.

Not talking about the deer incident.

8^)

Rick

From: Tom McCool
Date: 01-Apr-15




Good story Rick. I enjoyed it. :)

From: wood
Date: 01-Apr-15




Funny stuff. Glad you survived that encounter. We have all done things in our youth that we wouldn't do again after a little more thought and a little less testosterone. Thanks for sharing that story.

From: Fuzzy
Date: 01-Apr-15




I actually killed an unwounded doe with a skinning knife, and I was 43 years old at the time.

Long story, (hit by a car) legal kill, yes I was an idiot.

From: bwd
Date: 01-Apr-15




I think both of them are great stories. I have a friend who tells one similar to Rick's. He managed to drop his knife about the time the rodeo started. Says it wasn't until about the third or forth time they passed back by, where it was laying on the ground, that he was able to let go, with one hand, long enough to pick it up. The common theme is, no one ever seems to want to do it again. All fast learners I guess.

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-15




OK, 3 hours after "the question", 1 tab done, and on my second cup of coffee.

The answer:

I would watch (hopefully with a video camera) while one of the younger guys did the foolish deed.

I would even give a caution/warning before they jumped off the deep end. In other words, try to talk them out of it, but I wouldn't stand in their way, unless of course it was a very young kiddo, and then I wouldn't allow it to happen.

I would NOT cut the fence. IF I were the one to do the deed, the deer would still be dispatched, but in as quick & quiet a manner I had at my disposal given the circumstances at the time.

Freeing the deer in my story was not an option that would have produced a happy ending.

8^)

Rick

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-15




Rick, I can recall many stupid things I did at 17 or 19 years of age, so I won't chastise you at all. At that age, for a country boy, we did lots of fun things that prudes and liberals nowadays would have us on the front page for. Their loss. In the 1950's and 60's, we didn't have those folks to worry about, so our fun went uninterrupted. If you did it today, I would still laugh, but also think you were somewhat daft.

If we can sit and talk sometime, I can tell you of some crazy things that 50's country kids will do. 8^)

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-15




Joe,

everyone has an opinion, and one is just as worthy of consideration as another.

We will never all be right, as well as we will never all be wrong. I took no offense to your opinion at all. I expected it from someone, and actually expected it to happen quite sooner than it did.

As far as saving these stories for the campfire - Well, unfortunately THIS is the only campfire I will ever get to share with many/most of you, so I share in the hope that YOU will share with me.

I want to get to know you as best I can, and I want you to know me. I'm not now, nor have I ever been one to candy coat the truth about myself. What you see / hear / read is what you get.

I can only hope & pray that who & what I am won't turn away to many potential friendships, BUT if it does turn some away, at least they were turned away by me being honest with them.

Rick

From: Widow sax
Date: 01-Apr-15




Talk about funny I will be laughing all day long Thanks. Widow

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 01-Apr-15




What about the thousands of deer each year that get hit and busted up by cars but live to crawl away? What kind of hell do they go through before they die? can you say "torn apart by coyote's"? They dont even get the service of a human with a knife or gun that gives a damn and ends their suffering. They just have to lay there. Why is this thread still running anway?

From: Grey Fox
Date: 01-Apr-15




Enjoyed the story. At 19 I thought I was bullet proof too. Cut a neighbors colt out of fence yesterday. He stood calmly and sniffed me thankfully. No deer steaks.

From: Chief RID Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-15




I love Tom Kelly's story about the shield of youth. Rick you would like it if you have not read it. It's in his Better on a Rising Tide boo k I believe. I sure enjoyed your story.

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-15




Ditto Joe. 8^)

Thanks guys

I figured most would enjoy a story from one's adventurous yet misguided youth. 8^)

Unfortunately, I am now paying for all those stupid things I did. LOL

Rick

From: Pointer
Date: 01-Apr-15




Fess up Rick...it was a woodchuck

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 01-Apr-15




So now you ride Hogs?

If I would have know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself as well Rick.

From: Catskills
Date: 02-Apr-15




OMG, Widow Shooter, was rolling on the floor laughing !

I have seen how a deer can "explode" from the one time I tried to bag one at close range with a rock ! I am extremely lucky it did not trample me...

Yes, we were all young and stupid at one time it seems.

From: DixieBow
Date: 02-Apr-15




NY Yankee, deer getting hit by cars and eaten by coyotes has absolutely nothing whatsoever even remotely being related to a kid finding a deer stuck in a fence and then wrestling it so he can cut its throat. Neither one of the two scenarios you described can be avoided. I would have freed that deer even at 17! The last thing that would have entered my mind would be I gotta kill it. Nothing at all against Rick. I just didn't find the story as entertaining as everybody else did.





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