From: Barber
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Ok, let's here the good things about a metal riser recurve or longbow. I have both metal and wood , while love the fill of wood have to say the metal riser seems to take away all hand shock and helps with far distance shots for stability . What do y'all think about them?
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From: fide archer
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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I like the grip and weight of my 1972 bear A mag riser. I did however not like my mag B riser and sold it. With a new set of limbs it shootd great.
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From: redheadlvr
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Besides being cold I like mine which is a Black Widow.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Well, being that they were used for hunting and field archery in the 1940's, I suspect the traditional aspect is pretty valid. Although I was chastised once for posting a photo of a young man with his whitetail deer and a metal riser bow from 1949. I guess that was unfair of me to prove a point.
Anyway, those of us who grew up in archery prior to the compound becoming popular, they were just bows with metal risers. We of coursed like them for what they were and are, and they are great shooter. If I had to pick one bow for serious competition, it would likely be my metal risers, for many of the reasons Kevin listed. And fact is, I am more consistent arrow after arrow with them. I like both though, and when hunting season comes, I usually have a wood riser recurve or a longbow in my hand. A real longbow.
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From: 2nocks
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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would add to the list: stability
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From: tabbender
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Metal riser= endless options for grip shape and size. Endless options for color.
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From: Toby
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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You can use an adjustable rest.
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From: Tal McNeill
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Mass weight without bulk. That's always been one of the biggest draws for me.
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From: Tradbowmike
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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What Kevin said and more. Never owned one until I had shoulder surgery and had time to study. Now it is "how many can I own" syndrome. Strength, versatility and stability. Best 3D scores and consistency ever.
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From: outpostdave
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Add to that (if ILF), seemingly endless limb choices from an array of manufactures.
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From: zetabow
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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" They drive the traddy trads nuts.
When you put longbow limbs on them and call them a longbow, the traddy trads heads actually explode"
Good enough reason for me ;-)
During a lightning storm you find out who your real friends are
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From: strshotx
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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My only metal riser bows are a couple of my ILF bows,I don't like to put grips on them.I just wrap them with some grip tape,I like the narrow grip.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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I find my B handle Bear riser with #3 limbs easier to tune
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From: stickbow21
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Out of all the bows I have had throughout numerous years now, The ones I shot the best were: 1. Bear Mini mag riser with ILF plates with DAS shorts. 2. Quinn stallion 3. Bear A Mag with #1 Gainesville limbs.
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From: Dan In MI
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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The only negative is they can get very cold.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Termites can't eat them and water can't rot or delaminate them.
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From: Sipsey River
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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I like that I can get very light weight limbs. I like that the metal riser is cut past center making it easier to tune arrows of heavier spine if needed. I like being able to change grips. If I want to do so I can shoot a very light arrow (for 3D events). The price of ILF limbs go from under $75 to 10 times that, but the cheap ones shoot very well. I like being able to set the tiller and adjust poundage. My metal ILF risers were less than $200 each and are nearly indestructible.
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From: charley
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Only downside is the cold handle. Best upside: Wrap handle with bubble wrap and hockey tape, and shooting with the traddy trads as they roll there eyes. Priceless fun.
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From: Ghostinthemachine
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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They're ugly.
They're cold.
They're souless.
They're godless.
They're ridiculously untrad.
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From: roger
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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Except they aren't "ridiculously untrad" and completely trad for the reasons listed above. Additionally, my fingers have never frozen and broken off while hunting with them. Kevin nailed it, btw.
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From: Dan In MI
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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That darn Fred Bear, he was the most untrad archer EVER.
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From: NTProf
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Date: 17-Dec-14 |
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I also found that the transition from compound to metal risers bows, probably due to the grip, seemed easier.
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From: Str8 Shooter
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Just another riser. Never saw a difference in accuracy when comparing like sized risers. For those that saw an increase in accuracy are you set up the same and comparing the same weight limbs?
I have both, main reason I would choose metal is if I want to shoot an elevated rest/plunger setup.
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From: tabbender
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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"They're ugly. They're cold.
They're souless.
They're godless.
They're ridiculously untrad."
I am 4 out of 5 of these things myself.
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From: Tajue17
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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you can drill a hole in the riser then tap it for the same threads as your bow hook & 2nd chance arrow clip and now you have a place to screw those so you never forget them.
also you can get them skinned (dipped) any color you want then re-dipped as many times as you want without damage.
you can have a hatchet head made in the same design as a limb fade out so when you need a hatchet just take limbs off and bolt on hatchet connection and now you have a bow riser hatchet.
if the truck gets stuck in mud or snow put the riser under the wheel instead of sticks and burn right outta there,,having it stibbled first is recommended.
finally watch the double bull videos from the original owner (I think its called "a year on the ground") and see him use his metal riser ACS making heart shot after heart shot.
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From: zetabow
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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When you can shoot walkback groups like this from 10 to 60 yards you can forgive that it's a metal riser.
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From: Hoyt
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Only drawback for me is mine is cold and heavier. I haven't been able to hunt since last part of Oct. due to health problems and then pulled my shoulder muscle when I tried to shoot the other day. So I'm having to use my Quinn Stallion 41#..45# at my draw. Will try and hunt this afternoon. The good part is I'm more accurate with it than my other bows.
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From: S.M.Robertson
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Here is a pic of my Carroll's. The grip is where it's at and the static limbs are smooth as butter. It's my go to bow. I shoot better with it plus it handles about any arrow I put on it. Metal risers have been around longer than most of us. I like my wood handled bows too, but I'm not giving my Carroll's up. I've always followed my own lamp , never gave a hoot what anybody else thought.
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From: GLF
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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I know most will never shoot enough arrows in different temps to notice, even if they could shoot well enough, lol, but you'll never find a wood that is as consistant as metal in different temps. Wood changes enough to change long range groups with extreme temp changes, metal doesn't. That being said I'm wood all the way. Its pretty and warms to the hand.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Hey Scott, better bring that bow down and we will take them for a woods walk again. My Carroll's is itching to head for the gamelands.
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From: JRW
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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I've been shooting them for several years and haven't found a down side yet.
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From: Ghostinthemachine
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Good one KPC. lol
For those that don't know, I was just kidding. :)
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From: jwingman
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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I have had several wooden bows and wooden handles let go on me. I have yet to have a failure with a metal handle. That is a plus side value to me. I had $1200 worth of wooden bows blow up on me last year. Not a pleasant event. The limbs can still let go but they can be replaced easier. I still have some wooden laminated bows. They are warmer in the handle but I have found I really like my DAS DX5. jwingman
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From: Backcountry
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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What make of limbs do those Carrolls have on them?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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They are Carroll's own limbs, but Wing Presentation II limbs will also bolt on to them. They are R and L specific though.
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From: Backcountry
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Those Carroll limbs have some interesting curvature. Static tips?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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The limbs on Scott's bow are semi-static. They do open late in the draw. My bow has standard recurve limbs as most Carroll's do.
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From: mangonboat
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Pro's: rock steady at full draw, nobody ever gives me grief about the home-grown camo paint job, never bothers me to drill and tap new attachment holes, looks great with any wild combination of string colors you can imagine.
Con: makes me frustrated that I can't hold the wooden bows as steady, would be a load to carry on a long day of still hunting.
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From: KyPhil
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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The Chastain Wapiti recurve resembles that Carrolls.
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From: Backcountry
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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So the limbs on Scott's bow may be from a maker other than Carroll--that is what I'm trying to determine.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 18-Dec-14 |
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Pros: I've never shot another bow as well.
Cons: Can't think of any. In cold weather I'm touching wood on my Titan III riser, not metal anyway so the cold in winter argument doesn't hold water.
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From: zetabow
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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My riser has exposed metal where my finger tips rest, during winter I just put a few layers of black hockey tape on and problem solved.
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From: Backcountry
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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Thanks for the PM, George.
My Wing Comp II has a solid metal riser that is really heavy. Not sure what the metal is--possibly from a recycled Soviet submarine?
I'm looking for some lighter draw weight limbs that I might be able to bolt to the slide-loc attachments. It would make a good 3d bow.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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One of the pluses is when you outshoot ur buddies you cam listen to them bitch about how your bow is not as traditional as wood.
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From: Mo0se
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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This is what a proper longbow looks like! :)
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From: Barber
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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Is that proper longbow a DX 5 ?
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From: Mo0se
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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No...it's a 21" Dalaa Riser
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From: Barber
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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Never have shot the Dalaa, only Hoyt's in machined riser bows. Would love to try a Dalaa sometime as I would like to try longbow limbs on one like yours. Is it a as good a shooter as it looks?
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From: Hiram
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Date: 19-Dec-14 |
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Metal and wood were both created, both came from the ground, both have Earth origin.
Your body is made of metals.
Groves Spitfire is now ILF..
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From: HARRY CARRY
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Date: 20-Dec-14 |
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Both of my Lefty metal riser bows, a Sky Medalist and a Sky Target Master, are simply fun to shoot. Yeppers, I get comments. But I normally get comments about most everything I do.....
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 20-Dec-14 |
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You can even put funky limbs and training wheels on them
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 20-Dec-14 |
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just kidding I have had a couple a sky medalist and one covered in brown velvet. the sky was a good shooter.
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From: longrifle
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Date: 20-Dec-14 |
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I remember the snickers when I showed up with a Black Bear Warf at my first tournament. Most of those guys had more money in their quiver than I had in my whole rig. One guy actually told me that they had already pounded in the stakes for the targets, I could put my ax back in the truck. I managed an 8 average that day but later I found that same guy scratching leaves, looking for his arrows on numerous occasions. I slipped up to him and quietly asked if he wanted to borrow my ax....
Personally it doesn't matter to me if someone shoots a broom handle strung with tobacco twine as long as they're shooting and enjoying it. I shoot metal risers and love'em. I don't like runny eggs.
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From: Mo0se
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Date: 20-Dec-14 |
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Barber, Yes it's a joy to shoot!
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