Bet I got your alls attention on this one LOL

Jokes aside the story to these is that they were built by a Herman Shroud who was supposed to have partnered with Fred Bear at one time. I know no nothing about it.

The arrows with the broadheads are footed. Looks like lemonwood. The target arrows are not. Both sets have re-enforced self nocks and the fletching has been inletted into the shafts. Asuming that this was for shooting off the knuckle.

Fellow wants to trade me these arrows for a modern Hoyt recurve that I have from the 90's. Also have a mint Hoyt from the 60's. I collect target bows. I like the old and new Hoyt together shows the advancements made in archery.

Anyone have a clue to these arrows its a tempting trade!

Sorry if some of you had to be scraped off the ceiling with the C word. But sometimes I just can't help myself and no they are not going into compound!

Y'all take care

The way I see it you can likely get another Hoyt...one wonders how many of those arrows are out there in that condition...there is nothing to compare to a well made woody

DDave

So are you looking for info on the arrows themselves - Vintage, Maker, etc.? Or are you wondering what their market value might be? Or just whether it’s a good trade?

I don’t fancy myself any kind of “collector” except of things which have some personal meaning… like the stone arrowheads that my great-grandfather picked up while he was out plowing wild prairie into crops… So to me, those are some really cool old arrows…. which I would never use in any way, nor think much about, apart from maybe keeping one as a model for making some of my own shootable copies.

And I’ve got too much Stuff I’ll Never Use floating around already! (Check my swap and trade posts! LOL)

Now, of course, the thing about Antiques is that they take so long to manufacture… So those are probably rare and potentially valuable….. But JMO if you’re worried about getting their cash value out of them, you’ll never be happy with what you settle for, because you’ll be bargaining with someone who is 99% likely to deal them off at a profit…

NO!! Not in a compound!

WHEEEW!!!

I'm with Dave on this one. Not all that many old arrows left of that quality. I'd much rather have them on the wall than another bow.

As I understand it there is another complete set with a bow from where these came from. He wants that Hoyt awful bad. No idea what the Hoyt is worth or what it would cost to replace it. Going to let him set for awhile "maybe he'll cough up the other set! But this is starting to look like a done deal!

The broadheads are Gus Atkins and highly collectable, not one of the really scarce ones, but I sure would not shoot them. The arrows that have the feathers inletted into the shaft, there was a manufacture in the late 40's to mid 50's that produced shafts like that, so that could be factory done, however I don't recall them being offered self-nocked. Bob

The broadhead is a Gus Adkins BF-5 from 1945. Should put the arrows into the same time frame.

People shot wood arrows in compounds for years. Why it would it be different now? The arrows really don't have a huge collector worth unless they can be tracked and connected definitively to someone in particular. They are nice though.

Is there some type of verification that can connect them to Mr. Shroud?

Got me. I only looked because of the C-word.

Have NO intention to shoot them! No there is nothing to connect them to anyone

Im not sure what the question is, but I would hang on to those arrows. they are nice.

Those arrows ain't for shooting ,they are too good to loose or break. If they were mine I would be making replicas and shoot those. Replicas would take a bit of work though. Well with in my capabilities but could proove difficult for some folk.They come from the time when far more craftsmanship was used to build arrows. My current arrows are made along similar lines. Great to see them .Eye candy for me. Thanks for posting pictures.More than enough for me to make a good copy from.Just glued up 20 footed blanks this week so I may finish them similar to tje ones you posted. OSR

Osr, here is a close up of the target arrows for you hopefully to get a little more insight into them. Wondering if there was a special tool used?

Fletch-Lok shafts,, made in colo. in the '70's had the feathers installed in groves as those seem to be.Never saw them with self nocks. I have close to 100 of them, bare shafts. I think Marv Clyncle's uncle had something to do with them.

I would not shoot them myself. Mayb go over on gang and see what Gus heads bring? Maybe that will stop you from shooting them?

Hold onto or sell them but don't blow them up.

Will your bow shoot them probably with no issues but its a time boom that may or may not go off. Only you can light that fuse let us know when you do though so we aren't near by.LOL

Those are well before any 1970 operation.

I got nothing to add other than those are some really cool old arrows!

I could send you some new carbon arrows for your compound and you send me those.

As you see, I have nothing constructive to add to the topic either, other than to say I sure like them.

Thanks for the detailed close up.I am sure if I jig up my Dremmel tool so I could groove the shafts.It will be a fun project .I may not get a start until after X mas though.7 grand kids means a busy X mas. OSR

Blackhawk appreciate the offer, but the compound is well fed and I would never dream of shooting arrows like these out of it. Would not shoot them out of my Trad equipment either!

Fellas can't thank you all enough for the input. I'd love to have these arrows but have decided not to make the trade for the Hoyt I have. Its been a tough decision. Bottom line is I know he's looking at the riser for his next latest and greatest idea on what he is doing. The bow has some personal history with me and just don't feel like letting it go for something like that Y'all take care and thanks

Old bower your post inspired me any way so I can make me some replicas. Going to be doing some Pope style arrows and also Young type arrows. Along with the ones you have shown me I am going to have some nice representitive coppies of some classic arrows.Once again thank you OSR

Osr144: The grooves in the shafts are not parallel grooves, they are actually dove tail grooves. and when the feathers are ground the quills are ground to fit the dovetails. mighty small dovetails, I doubt if a cutter that small can even be found today. Bob

Thanks aromakr a cutter is no worry Not too bad at tool making .Until the eyesight got bad and arthritis took hold I was a gun smith.I can still do fine detailed work but it just takes a long time. Hey I am glad I only will make a few .Some for shooting and some for wall hanging. OSR

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