From: ButchMo
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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I was recently given a pretty nice Shakespeare Necedah. The old elevated rest was rotten so, I made a small pad of leather to add to the shelf cause it has a flat shelf. Made a 10 strand D97 flemeish twist with loops padded to 18. Shoots great, couldn't ask for a better shooting bow.
I was wondering if these bows were tillered for shooting from an elevated rest. Would I be better off installing a rest. Would it make it quieter? Pretty quiet already.
I work for Wally World so getting a clip strip to make a GS special rest would be easy enough.I shoot my other bows off the shelf but, I believe in doing what it takes to make things better.
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From: bearmagtd
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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Most or all came with a feather arrow rest aand leather side plate.
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From: Rooty
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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A lot had either a feather rest or a built up rest I believe was called a hunter rest? It's not going to matter imo. Hers how I rigged up the one I had.
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From: RonsPlc
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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Mine still has the original feather rest on it...
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From: Stumpkiller
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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Probably tillered from the deepest part of the grip to the center of the string with a little positive on the upper limb to compensate for a split finger nock point.
The rest won't much matter if it is 1/2" above the shelf.
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From: Wildhog
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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I have a Necedah and they are a very fine shooting bow for sure.
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From: Jaxn
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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I created a rest by glueing leather to approximately equal the height of the old feather rest. I then covered it with rough out deer skin and the bow shoots great.
Jack
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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I have a Zebra been hunting it and it's plenty quiet on shelf. Mine has FF skinny string also with Padded loops and cat whiskers and she's tunned and I woun't even think of an elivated rest. I'm plenty satisfied. Rootys rest looks great though but I'm not messing with whats working for me.LOL
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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Thanks for all your help and advise. Butch
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From: yorktown5
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Date: 13-Nov-14 |
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Here's a piece of trivia. Ernie Root's son Larry says since he was too young to have a job at the factory he was relegated to the family basement where He made the feather rests for Root and Shakespeare...some anyway.
Rick
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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I have a Necedah that I shoot off the shelf with a Velcro rug and it's fine. Excellent bow!
I also have two Super Necedahs, one with the original Hunter Rest (Rooty had the name right) that has the horizontal "V" white Shakespeare side plate. That rest is elevated about 3/8". The other Super Necedah has a stick on Velcro rug...no difference in performance between the two at all.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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They were simply tillered because you are pulling above the center of the bow and the bottom limb has to be stiffer. Doesn't matter shelf or raised rest. Most companies had a standard tiller they shot for, and that varied also due to so many bowyers finishing their bows. They didn't have time to consider this or that or any knick-knacks and scarcities. LOL. Those folks turned out hundreds of thousands of bows per year.
The zebrawood Necedah is the Super Necedah, at 54", the Necedah is 58" (first two years 55"). It was originally the Root Warrior. They are awesome hunting bows and great shooters. The lowstretch strings really brings out the performance on those bows as well.
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From: yorktown5
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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My research hints there was some consultation between Ernie Root and designer Harry Drake on the Warrior/Necedah AND later over Necedah details as the basis for the Savage Deathmaster. Adds more credence to George's point about how the bow performs.
Rick
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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Again, I do appreciate the info.
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From: dm/wolfskin
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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Here's mine with a doe I killed in December of 2012. This Necedah was giving to me by a Father figure a year before he passed away.
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From: MStyles
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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Shakespeare/Root designed Necedah is an excellent recurve. I've had the pleasure of shooting one, and they're a top shelf bow.
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From: yorktown5
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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No offense DM, but did you shoot it or scare it to death? (grin)
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 14-Nov-14 |
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Dm looks like you spined her. Scary face paint looks like your wearing camo paint glasses.LOL
Heres my zebra this bow is sweet been wanting to shoot a deer with it this year yet just got it a few weeks ago.I really love this bow and your right the skinny ff string really rocks.
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From: dm/wolfskin
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Date: 17-Nov-14 |
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There's a black mask inside of the hat that pulls down and black face paint around my eyes. There's no leaves on the trees in Dec. One of Ron Laclair's long hunt shirts I have on. Not a spine shot. Angle forward and maybe 80 yards run.
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From: camodave
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Date: 17-Nov-14 |
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That bow that Rooty shows the picture of is actually the Kaibab that I now own but you get the idea...George and Rick have forgotten more about those bows than most of us will ever know...just follow their advice and you will be grinning from ear to ear
DDave
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From: Frisky
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Date: 17-Nov-14 |
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Feathers, if you were hunting in 1897, shouldn't you be dead by now? I'm thinking you meant 1987.
Joe
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From: Frisky
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Date: 17-Nov-14 |
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A guy on the other site, named Trap, makes the feather rests.
Joe
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 19-Nov-14 |
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Your post prompted me to pull my 50# Necedah out and take it to the range...forgotten what a fast and accurate bow they are and a real pleasure to shoot...mine loves 2016's with 125 grains up front...as I said earlier I shoot right of the shelf with no raised index point.
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From: JLBSparks
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Date: 19-Nov-14 |
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I lowered my shelf 1/4", then radiused it. I added a leather bootstrap bump at the apex, and a Bear hair rest. Shoots great 3-under or split-finger.
-Joe
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 19-Nov-14 |
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The original Shakespeare rest is shown in this photo. They worked great on the flat shelf. You can make one out of some aluminum, or bendable plastic. Don't know how many years they were standard issues but certainly throughout much of the early to mid 70's.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 19-Nov-14 |
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This one show a side profile and a better view.
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