From: JusPassin
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Date: 30-Oct-14 |
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Does anyone know of any scientific studies done on the affects of grip angle.
I know , I know, everyone has an opinion on what feels best to them. I want to know what should work best and why.
For myself, a grip angle of 18 degrees to the string results in the limbs coming to rest after release perpendicular to the ground, which should theoretically go a long ways to eliminate torque.
I just can't find anything written about it.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 30-Oct-14 |
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I think you're looking at it wrong.
I can shoot a wide variety of grips well, accurately, without torquing, and without the bow moving and affecting arrow flight or handshock just by adjusting my bow hand's angle and fulcrum point to coincide with the bow's grip design and dynamic center of balance. I can usually feel how it needs to be held and make it right in less than 2 dozen shots or so.
A bow DOES need to be well designed and tillered and when it is, the 'best' grip angle, for an individual, is simply a matter of their preference.
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From: JLBSparks
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Date: 30-Oct-14 |
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Bruce, I'm certainly no expert, but I also prefer a low-wrist grip without being a broomhandle. About 15 degrees with a 3/32"-1/8" crown. I don't care for grips that feel like you're pointing, holding a tennis ball or baseball.
-Joe
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From: camodave
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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Take a look at some video of FITA recurve shooters and you will see a wide variety of grips and modifications...those people are some of the best archers in the world, they have access to the best technology, and they still have individual preferences...I am sure if there was a grip angle that was proven to be the "best" they would all be using it
DDave
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From: Buzz
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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From: overbo
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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Jeff is correct, Pressure point on any grip has to be center of the bow. This is why so many types and style of grips are out there. No one grip type will center the hand's pressure point for all archers but all grips will have that sweet spot that keeps the bow stable w/out torque through the shot.
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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I don't disagree with Jeff, and I think all of us who've shot for years have developed that ability. That doesn't mean that there isn't one perfect angle for you as an individual archer. The question is how is it determined.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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By shooting different styles of bow grips. A shoot like Denton Hill allows for that. I do agree that there is usually that one that just fits from the get-go. Only one way to find out, far as I know.
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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That's what I mean George, we all know when we let go with that "perfect" bow, but how to apply a scientific method to finding it rather than trial and error.
Maybe there truly is none, sure keeps a lot of guys busy buying and selling to find them.
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From: yorktown5
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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Often overlooked (including by me) is the change to trajectory (higher/lower) that the grip angle impacts.
It can be hard to isolate, but in general if a given bow shoots higher than the archer expects, the heel of the bow hand is bearing down on the grip with more pressure, and in the reverse if the grip angle is too low.
The brain quickly adjusts, as Jeff points out, but for a hunting archer who can't "re-calibrate" if heading into the woods, having all one's bow grips adjusted to the same sight view-trajectory is important for those of us who have a stable of regular favorites.
And while palm/heel pressure tends to increase as the grip angle becomes more steep and trajectory rises, I've discovered very high angles can cause the palm to no longer be behind the bow, but offset. Then the fulcrum is at the hand's web and the palm isn't exerting much pressure. Result is instead of higher trajectory, the bow shoots low.
Rick
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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Yae Rick. That's what I'm trying to get at.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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Pick the bow up and shoot it is all I ever been taught and teach.
I guess if one wants the perfect grip put a knife to there riser and fit it to your hand how you want then good luck with resale? LOL
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From: deadeye
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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When you get a GOOD coach (not the weekend class)you will learn to have you thumb level with the string.The same is true with target shooting with a gun.
I no nothing and see nothing!!!!
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From: yorktown5
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Date: 31-Oct-14 |
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About the only thing I retract from my last post is that I 'rit it rong'. Its a good idea to have all one's bows shoot to similar trajectories, but you can get there in a lot of ways. Grip angle is just one.
Rick
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From: ela gözlü avci
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Date: 02-Nov-14 |
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In "Archery, Step To Success" there is schematic explanation of difference in bending of the limbs with low-straight-and high-wrist grips but te authors say it does nkt make any significant difference. The wrist-string angle makes a difference when shooting with thumb release but I doubt if it has any effect on the dynamics of a modern bow with center-cut riser.
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