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Shakespeare Kaibab

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Gaur 22-Oct-14
Gaur 22-Oct-14
Rooty 22-Oct-14
Gaur 22-Oct-14
Gaur 22-Oct-14
swampwalker 22-Oct-14
Lucas 22-Oct-14
Raymo 22-Oct-14
Tal McNeill 22-Oct-14
George D. Stout 22-Oct-14
Gaur 22-Oct-14
George D. Stout 22-Oct-14
JRW 22-Oct-14
papabear 22-Oct-14
George D. Stout 22-Oct-14
George D. Stout 22-Oct-14
George D. Stout 22-Oct-14
Roadrunner 22-Oct-14
JRW 22-Oct-14
Tal McNeill 22-Oct-14
camodave 22-Oct-14
Gaur 23-Oct-14
reddogge 23-Oct-14
Rooty 23-Oct-14
Catskills 23-Oct-14
Gaur 23-Oct-14
Gaur 23-Oct-14
Tim Cousineau 24-Oct-14
From: Gaur
Date: 22-Oct-14

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I got this bow from my neighbor last year for $10. He does estates and antiques . I shot my mn whitetail with it last year and found it to be a wick little how for 45+ lb.

I posted it a few weeks ago on eBay and fold it for a bit over $100. Turned out the guy didn't like the finish on the bow. So I returned his money and sent him $20 to ship it back to me. So now it's a $30 bow

I was out the range the other day shoot different bows an arrows trying to decide what to hunt with this year.

I also had a kodiak hunter out there in 55# weight, a sinew backed Ed Scott bow, and another long bow.

Well this Kaibab won my heart. Shooting 1545 gold tips with 125 and they fly like darts and so flat out past 30 yards. My point on was at 40 yards.

Pic is with some footed fir shafts but the gold tips were grouping better and flatter shooting for me.

From: Gaur
Date: 22-Oct-14




Sorry I guess it's 58"

From: Rooty
Date: 22-Oct-14




The one I had was very efficient. Cameron

From: Gaur
Date: 22-Oct-14

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Pic of it braced

From: Gaur
Date: 22-Oct-14




Not looking to sell it but just wanted to bring up how much I like this little bow. I had always wanted an older kodiak hunter but after shooting the two side by side it left me feeling like these Shakespeare's are really underrated or Bears over rated ;)

From: swampwalker
Date: 22-Oct-14




My first turkey bow was a Kaibab. Man that was a fun bow!

From: Lucas
Date: 22-Oct-14




Nice looking bow, sorry for him he sent it back, but glad for you!

From: Raymo
Date: 22-Oct-14




I have one and really like it as well.

From: Tal McNeill
Date: 22-Oct-14




That was my first bow, my uncle gave it to me when I was 14 (a LONG time ago). Killed my first three deer with it. Unfortunately, it delaminated after surviving a house fire and is basically a wallhanger these days. Really loved that bow and will definitely get another one someday.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Oct-14




Shakespeare (Root) bows don't take a back seat to any vintage bow. The Root limb design is a good one...same technology that Ernie used in his Golden Eagle limbs that did so well on the pro circuit. The Kaibab and the Ocala...basically big and little brother bows, are inherently accurate bows with good mass, and will perform admirably among all of their rivals of the day.

The Kaibab is basically Ernie's Brushmaster renamed when Shakespeare took over Root. The Ocala would be the Fieldmaster model in Root. Great bows and generally reasonably priced for the quality. Bear had the name recognition but not necessarily any advantage when performance is considered.

From: Gaur
Date: 22-Oct-14




What brace height have other kaibab ownered found to work best?

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Oct-14




Mine was a 58" Kaibab and it was right around 8 1/4"

From: JRW
Date: 22-Oct-14

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The Shakespeare Kaibab was a reworked mid-60s Root Game-Masters. The Shakespeare Necedah was a reworked mid-60s Root Brush-Master.

From: papabear
Date: 22-Oct-14




I've noticed most people on here shoot rather high brace heiths. I realize it's an individual thing but have always tried to get as low as possible with good flight and least noise. 7 1/8 to 71/4 works for me. G. Fred Asbell recommends the same theory. I know all the recommendations for a lot of vintage bows came with high brace recommended but try lowering it I think you'll be happy

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Oct-14

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As I said, the Brushmaster became the Kaibab. Photos to follow. I was there when it happened and have owned bowh.

The Warrior became the Necedah.

The Field Master became the Ocala.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Oct-14

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From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Oct-14

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From: Roadrunner
Date: 22-Oct-14




The old specs from Shakespeare say the brace height should be 7 3/4", which is where both of mine are set at. The Kaibab was my first real bow back in '67. Right after that I bought an Ocala. I have two Kaibabs now.

From: JRW
Date: 22-Oct-14




Roadrunner,

I brace all my Root hunting bows right around 8" or a hair under and they shoot great. The Kaibab and Necedah were nice, but not quite as beefy (for lack of a better term) as the originals, the Game-Master and Brush-Master. Having owned several of each, the Shakespeares seemed to me like somewhat slimmed down versions of the originals with respect to the grips and limb tips. They were great bows at an excellent price.

From: Tal McNeill
Date: 22-Oct-14




I'd love to find a reasonably priced 50# Kaibab like Gaur's (not the more angular versions). Lots of great memories with my old Shakespeare.

From: camodave
Date: 22-Oct-14




Up until I traded with Cameron for the one I have I had never shot a 58 inch recurve...that bow taught me that I could shoot 58 inches as well as anything...and that led me to buy a 52 inch Kodiak Magnum...seems like the Shakespeare limb construction is not quite as detailed as the earlier Root bows meaning they were probably made more to a price point...the Shakespeare is a very nice shooter anyway...I would not be unhappy if it were my only bow

DDave

From: Gaur
Date: 23-Oct-14




Thanks for the feedback. Still a little nosier than I would like so I wanted to play around with the brace height some. I made a well padded fast flight string for it that I have been shooting on it.

Going to see if I can shoot a deer with it this next week. Shot a 7 pointer with it last year.

From: reddogge Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 23-Oct-14




Is the Kaibab a 58" bow? The Root Gamemasters were 62" and fine shooters and lookers they were.

From: Rooty
Date: 23-Oct-14

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Game master come in 60 62 64. Cameron

From: Catskills
Date: 23-Oct-14




IMHO, Earnie Roots' grips are second to none.

From: Gaur
Date: 23-Oct-14

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From: Gaur
Date: 23-Oct-14

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From: Tim Cousineau
Date: 24-Oct-14




I handed mine down to my daughter.... wonder if I have something she would trade for!!





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