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twistedlimbs 16-Oct-14
bodymanbowyer 16-Oct-14
dire wolf 16-Oct-14
Whitetail 16-Oct-14
vhram 16-Oct-14
Jon Stewart 16-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 16-Oct-14
bodymanbowyer 16-Oct-14
nomo 16-Oct-14
Seahorse 16-Oct-14
Harleywriter 16-Oct-14
Grey Fox 16-Oct-14
jgharris01 16-Oct-14
kenwilliams 17-Oct-14
GF 17-Oct-14
Rut-row 17-Oct-14
dhaverstick 17-Oct-14
Stoner 17-Oct-14
JusPassin 17-Oct-14
Wandering Archer 17-Oct-14
Old Crow 17-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 17-Oct-14
Seahorse 17-Oct-14
Old Crow 17-Oct-14
Grey Fox 17-Oct-14
Zipperin' 17-Oct-14
moosehunter 17-Oct-14
Catskills 18-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 18-Oct-14
Catskills 20-Oct-14
MStyles 20-Oct-14
Drewster 20-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 20-Oct-14
Al Snow 20-Oct-14
dgb 21-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 21-Oct-14
kingwouldbe 21-Oct-14
Catskills 22-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 22-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 22-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 22-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 22-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 22-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 22-Oct-14
Catskills 26-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 26-Oct-14
Catskills 26-Oct-14
Stoner 26-Oct-14
tonto59 26-Oct-14
Old Crow 27-Oct-14
Pip 27-Oct-14
ProAlpine 27-Oct-14
Catskills 29-Oct-14
fdp 29-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 29-Oct-14
Catskills 30-Oct-14
twistedlimbs 30-Oct-14
Swamppappy 30-Oct-14
Catskills 30-Oct-14
From: twistedlimbs
Date: 16-Oct-14

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Been getting some knapping done this week and just wanted to share a few I did this afternoon. All knapped with antler tools from spalls of rock. Doin' it the old fashioned way. They are leaky sharp!

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 16-Oct-14




Sweet nice looking points,what do they weigh. Jeff F

From: dire wolf
Date: 16-Oct-14




Ryan..Very nicely done!..Jim

From: Whitetail
Date: 16-Oct-14




Ryan, very nice as always. All you need now is get'um mounted up and go kill something! Charlie

From: vhram
Date: 16-Oct-14




very nice, those look great !

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 16-Oct-14




Very nice. That top one gold sheen?

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 16-Oct-14




Thanks guys. Jeff- these are about 90-100 gr points, bigger than I recommend for most people. Jon- it's a silver sheen. Pretty stuff for sure

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 16-Oct-14




Very talented. Jeff

From: nomo
Date: 16-Oct-14




You sir are a flint knapping machine. Never seen such uniformity. They look like they were made on a CNC machine. Thanks for sharing. Your knapping prowess is something to aspire to.

From: Seahorse
Date: 16-Oct-14




Gorgeous. I have some obsidian I hope to get some serviceable points out of, some day.

From: Harleywriter
Date: 16-Oct-14




Twisted, those look outstanding. Nomo is right. You are a machine. What do you in your work life? I don't work and I cannot find time to shoot my bow. Priorities, I guess.

From: Grey Fox
Date: 16-Oct-14




Very nice.

From: jgharris01 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Oct-14




Excellent work!!!

From: kenwilliams
Date: 17-Oct-14




Very nice, I always enjoy your posts

From: GF
Date: 17-Oct-14




Pardon me for a moment while I pick my jaw up off of the floor... May have crashed through to the basement...

From: Rut-row
Date: 17-Oct-14




Sweet. I have a box full of obsidian and knapping tools, bought it a garage sale, all I know how to do is look at the box! Hopefully one day!

From: dhaverstick Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Oct-14




That is very, very cool! Thanks for sharing! I am envious of your skill.

From: Stoner
Date: 17-Oct-14




You got the skills brother. John

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Oct-14




You would have been a highly valued member of the tribe.

From: Wandering Archer
Date: 17-Oct-14




Well, to reiterate what everyone else has said... ...WOW, those are fantastic!

Why don't you advise that they be any larger than that? I would think that just a little larger would put you at 125gr. which is a common weight for field tips. And, what about guys who are using heavier tips in the 200gr. range? What would be the disadvantage of making a 200gr. stone point? Too fragile at those dimensions?

From: Old Crow
Date: 17-Oct-14




I've been getting hunting points from twistedlimbs for several years, now and I can guarantee those points are great, just killed a doe on the 29 th of September, using one of his points, shot her at 10yds, double lunged her, she ran 80 yds and piled up.

His points are just as sharp as any steel blade broadheads. He's got a great guarantee on his broadheads.

I use to be skeptic! Until I used a broadhead made of obsidian back in 2009 by a friend of mine, killed a 368 # black bear, he only went about 80 yds. Not only was I'm impressed, but also the guide was impressed. First year that Canadian hunting regulations took the (steel)out of the regulations of broadheads, have to be at least two sharp cutting edges, 1 inch by 3/4 as I remember.

If you can kill deer with steel two blades, you will have no trouble killing with stone points, well at least twistedlimbs, I'm sure there are other fine knappers, but danged he is a Master of what he does. It's MHO

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 17-Oct-14




thanks larry, I appreciate it!

Wandering Archer- Stone isn't as dense as steel and to get the 125+ grains, it takes a pretty big point. From my experience, those big points just have too much surface area to really penetrate well. I get consistent pass through shots by using smaller 70-90 grain points.

From: Seahorse
Date: 17-Oct-14




I didn't fully appreciate the uniformity until I read nomo's post. Make mine a double-WOW!

From: Old Crow
Date: 17-Oct-14




Wandering Archer, that's what I thought also, until twistedlimb' s, explained to me about the steel and stone point, and he's right. I told him to make me what ever he thought would work, An old saying years ago, "Never, Ever Guide the Guide!" holds true. Because when someone is a Master at what they do, it's best to take what they say as the truth.

From: Grey Fox
Date: 17-Oct-14




I saw a collection, from Tenn.,on The Roadshow valued at $600,000. Yours are just as nice

From: Zipperin'
Date: 17-Oct-14




Ryan,

I will be carrying your points this fall (again). Those look deadly sharp and very purty.

Good Luck this year!

Zip'

From: moosehunter Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Oct-14




Mount em up and take more pics then! Nice job!

From: Catskills
Date: 18-Oct-14




Those are beautiful.

Could someone please post a pic of one of those points mounted on arrow ?

What is the total grain weight of arrows you use, twistedlimbs ?

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 18-Oct-14

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This particular points are currently in the mail to another fellow, but here is a picture of a different one mounted up, and here is also a video I did a while back on how to mount them.

Catskills, my arrows are typically 500-580 grains. I've used lighter and heavier ones however, but 520-580 seems to be my sweet spot. But in an effort to keep things as primitive as possible, I don't actually weigh the arrows until they are finished and I've picked my favorites by the way they fly.

From: Catskills
Date: 20-Oct-14




Thanks for the video, very nicely done.

Appreciate your craftsmanship !

If you don't mind a couple more questions, What wood are your shafts made of ? What bow are you shooting these out of ?

From: MStyles
Date: 20-Oct-14




You do very fine work, they're beautiful.

From: Drewster
Date: 20-Oct-14




Deadly beautiful indeed.....very nice work.

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 20-Oct-14




thanks again guys. Catskills- I shoot rivercane arrows and primitive bows. I make everything A-Z

From: Al Snow
Date: 20-Oct-14




Beautiful, Ryan. Just curious. I notice you live in Florida. Where do you get your obsidian from? I would be interested in trying it. I have some knapping tools and have worked with chert a little. But nothing nearly as nice as what you are producing.

From: dgb
Date: 21-Oct-14




Outstanding work!!

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 21-Oct-14




Al - check ebay for obsidian. I pick mine up on the cheap at local knap-ins

From: kingwouldbe
Date: 21-Oct-14




Outstanding twisted......

From: Catskills
Date: 22-Oct-14




Would love to see a pic of one of your hunting bows, when you have the time.

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 22-Oct-14

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here are a couple pics for you catskills.

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 22-Oct-14

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From: twistedlimbs
Date: 22-Oct-14

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From: twistedlimbs
Date: 22-Oct-14

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From: twistedlimbs
Date: 22-Oct-14

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here are a couple fancier ones

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 22-Oct-14

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but believe it or not, my current pride and joy is this truly primitive set. I made everything, bow, arrows, points, and quiver all with nothing but stone age tools and stone age technology.

From: Catskills
Date: 26-Oct-14




Twistedlimbs,

That is beautiful work!

What kind of wood is that last bow ?

Are some of those recurve-shaped bows selfbows ? I.e. unlaminated ? If so, how do you achieve that, with steam-bending ?

Thanks for sharing.

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 26-Oct-14




the last one is white stopper aka Florida Snakewood. Yeah, they are all selfbows. I use steam to bend the shapes.

From: Catskills
Date: 26-Oct-14




Nice, they look like good shooters.

From: Stoner
Date: 26-Oct-14




Ryan, Thanks for the video, great craftsmanship as always. John

From: tonto59
Date: 26-Oct-14




Enjoy your videos. Beautiful points. It looks like you have mastered the knapping skills. Have you tried making a stone axe yet? It's important to keep them primitive skills around. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

From: Old Crow
Date: 27-Oct-14




Received the stone point replacement from Ryan on Saturday morning. Ryan has the best guarantee I know of, kill a deer (or any big game animal) with a stone point of his and send him a photo of your kill, and Ryan will replace it.

I returned "All Cracked Up" the traveling 1961 Bear, Polar recurve to uphuntn, along with the Cedar arrow and stone point I used to kill the whitetail doe, with. As a keepsake for uphuntn, for using "All Cracked Up". Thanks to uphuntn, twistedlimbs, and Paul, the arrowsmith that makes cedar "Firefly" arrows, for Ron LaClair.

From: Pip
Date: 27-Oct-14




Very cool, unbelievable skills. Pip

From: ProAlpine
Date: 27-Oct-14




Rad. So cool to see, but I'd really like to see it all from start to finish: bow, arrows, points! Twistedlimbs, you ever think about doing classes? I'm sure there are plenty of people, even just on this forum, who would like to learn how to do this. One more question, do you hunt in buckskins and moccasins? Seems kinda silly to wear modern synthetic camo when working with such handmade beauty! Thanks for sharing!

From: Catskills
Date: 29-Oct-14




Amazing craftsmanship !

Glad to hear the roving Bear Polar made its rounds and returned.

I have a very similar Polar complete with a few stress lines but a great shooter.

From: fdp
Date: 29-Oct-14




Ryan...you've got me thinking I'm going back to my primitive bows and arrows. There's just something special about them. Went and cut a Juniper stave already, and started digging out some of the ones I've got in the shed.

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 29-Oct-14




get after it fdp. once you go primitive, you never go..... still working on a good rhyme..lol

From: Catskills
Date: 30-Oct-14




Ryan, any suggested literature on "going primitive" ?

It's sort of how a lot of started as youngsters.

From: twistedlimbs
Date: 30-Oct-14

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Sure thing!! lol my book. Sticks and Stones: Primtive Adventures.

From: Swamppappy
Date: 30-Oct-14




Dude, if we're using the "buddy system" during the zombie apocalypse, then I call twistedlimbs!!! Dibs...Dibs on the knapper!!!

From: Catskills
Date: 30-Oct-14




Ah ha ! Gonna get it !





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