Wondering to know if any out there use multicam camo ? Please give any info on success hunting and any other thoughts.

I actually sold off all my camo and am going wool/plaid. Just what I am doing. Anything that breaks your pattern up will work. I was never a fan of military multicam. Pattern is to small. Just my opinion. Hope it helps.

Agree with Wojo, to small of a pattern, good for human eyes but not animals. remember that deer see in black and white and if the colors of you camo are tight and similar in contrast it will look like a big blob.

If that is like Sitka forest I can say I use natural gear changed to forest . Got picked out of my tree stand in 3 places that I never did with natural. Sold it all and back to natural. I like how turkeys don't pick me out in a tree with it on and that's hard to do.

I use USGI MC pants, but that's it. I usually just have a brown T-shirt on when I wear those. I wear them because my "uncle" gave them to me and they do the job. Besides, they are really comfortable and if they get ripped, stained or any other issue, I am not out any money.

I really like Multicam and am going to use it for my upcoming Elk hunt in Wyoming. Used it for Turkeys and it really seems to blend in well.

It doesn't look a whole lot different than many other options to me, but it does have light and dark areas and that is really the key to fooling a deer's eye. That is actually why plaids do work so well...plaid is camouflage too, just not a commercial camo, per se. Looks like it will work fine, but doesn't jump out as anything special.

Thanks for the replies. Think I'll stick with my plaids and try some asat.

"Think I'll stick with my plaids and try some asat."

Can't go wrong there. Personally there only 3 camo patterns that work well in my opinion. ASAT,Predator(the open patterns) and NatGear Don't have any experience with Sitka or KIUI...they cost more than am willing to spend.

At least until I hit the LOTO

;)

I don't have much for camo anymore. I have a asat 3d leafy suit that I wear. So I can wear just regular comfortable clothing.

I was gonna go with a plaid shirt this year. What colors do you guys suggest...also what color pants?

Have used the old Preadator Spring Green Pattern..Great Stuff, Also use once in awhile green and black plaid shirt, Depending on the Temps.

BoBo- I usually wear earth tone colored plaid shirts, but red-black plaid works really good as well. Remember deer see in black and white so that red just looks grey. For pants I usually just wear brown or tan, sometimes green in early season. Austin

Thank you sir. After a long summer, parts of PA open up on Sept. 20th and I am planning on testing this out.

BoBo, movement is your enemy, not pattern. Any garment should have lights and darks mixed for best results, but folks kill plenty of deer while wearing gray sweatshirts or other dark colors. Find a good hidey-hole and be still when in the presence of game.

x2 George. Its all about how and where your hiding. Staying as still as you can until its time to make the shot is just as important. Grey sweatshirts and other solid colors actually work well for me especially when I have a little cover directly in front of me to help break me up. In the early season I just wear green or brown short sleeve shirts and it works well and keeps you comfortable when its still hot out. Good luck this season everyone. Austin

ASAT is the best I've used in 45 yrs of hunting. The other thing that works as good is large pattern red/black wool plaid. I took a black and white pic of that and it looks much like ASAT only with a square pattern. The blacks appears as vertical and horizontal lines like tree branches. Skeet

True Timber camo

Hunters care more about camo than deer do. Movement is the real enemy.

Earthtones and plaids often work as well as about any camo brand out there.

But if it makes you happy , get what you want. It's a lot about confidence.

carhart moss bibs and vest gray sweatshirts sometimes brown bibs.

"Movement is the real enemy". That is true but game animals are prey and they will see you blink your eyes. Anybody that can hunt without moving is a better hunter than I. I even move when I draw my bow. That's why I use ASAT and I like large pattern light and dark wools. I will add that my father started bowhunting in the '50s and wore an old grey trenchcoat and stood at the base of grey color maple trees and he was one of the few people that always shot deer with a bow in those days. Skeet

I like to hide behind stuff an let them come to me.

But I do like most camo's because I think it looks cool.

Got to be some irony in that one huh !

John.

TRUE about movement, but you have to get in & out of your area.

And if your after the bigger bucks, you don't want to spook the does either because many times they are why he is there. Disperse them and he goes too. Plus, other hunters. They don't need to know you are there. " What's he back there for ? Wonder if he's on to something. "

I've tested many patterns in many positions. Distance is where most fail. If you use creeks in the woods, powerlines, etc, it helps to blend in.

At 80+ yards all those leaves, twigs, branches, etc are irrelevant. Notice how MOST Advertisement pics show the model with a tree behind him.

I Placed all my test camo in different open positions in the woods and wood edges, and walked away upwards of 100 + yards and turned around and swept the area with my eyes quick. The first 5 seconds are the test. After that, you know it is there and you begin to zero in on where you know you put it, so after 5 seconds, the test is over.

Also, during the late 80's & 90's eras, I've had many opportunities to test camo in the close presense of game, especially turkeys. I've had turkey gobblers very close quite a few times, one even at 3 yards. They never saw the Mossy Oak Full Foilage, now long discontinued. I've had deer look at me and dismiss me with the M.O. Full Foilage.

In the 2000's I had a turkey hen come in my blind and almost peck me in the leg, not knowing I was there. The camo was Mossy Oak Obsession.

During the 1990's as a State Game Warden, I snuck up on a group of illegal hunters taking a break in a closed area. They had been hunting and had a spike buck dead. I got within 10 yards of them before they ran. The camo was -- Vietnam tiger stripe top, mossy oak head net, state issue green pants.

Mossy oak Full Foilage worked so well because it had the large blotches in it that contrasted with the big green leaves.

The old WWII spotted camo made for the pacific islands was one of the most effective.

Other camo that I have seen work well 100+ yards is the Predator Spring Green, and

5.1.1 Tactical Gear had a camo of their own out, now discontinued, called tan digital. It works excellent at a distance. Below is a picture of it on the right :

Left = USMC MArPat Woodland digital

Right = the 5.1.1 Tactical digital

I was standing on the ground, 15 yards away from this young buck cruising back to bed in the a.m., when I took this pic. Having to lift the camera up and manipulate it too.

I had on the 5.1.1 Tactical digital pants, a Realtree APG top, and a Mossy Oak Obsession leafy head net.

He Never knew I was there.

I snuck up on these three Gobblers. All 3 had beards nearly dragging the ground. Got within 25 yards of them.

Had on an entire suit of Mossy Oak Obsession, including head net.

They Never knew I was there.

This Juvenile deer knew something was up, but was too young to know to run. It saw me. I was against a tree with Realtree APG top, and I think Mossy Oak obsession pants on.

I think because it was closer than 20 yards to me, that the camo begin to fail. The tree was a dark one so the camo contrasted.

I agree with others: sit or stand still. I control my breathing as well. Deep breath in through nose, hold a few seconds, exhale slowly through nose. Keeps me calm, reduces cramps and keeps breath odor down

The Reason the Plaids work well is that they are Blotched with LARGE contrasting squares.

That is what does it. You need Blotched camo, contrasting. Large blotches or groups of small blotches that make up a large blotch.

Remaining Still is good, But you eventually have to get back to the truck and back to the stand again the next hunt.

You don't want to spook deer during the entry/exit trips. So just relying on inaction will be no good if they get you patterned.

" here comes that vertical figure again, same time as yesterday "

Of course you have to move, but you move when the deer are not looking in your direction.

As far as getting to and from your stand, I dont care what camo you wear...deer will see you. They just think..oh theres that man shaped camo figure.. again ;)

WRONG !

Count 7 posts up earlier from yours. See pic. He nevr knew I was there.

How many deer do you think I have spotted that never knew I was there, in my life.

You cannot know where ALL of the deer are when making entry/exit, so you slip slowly in/out constantly scanning ahead. Good camo buys you a little time to spot them.

You must know this.

Lamplighter Im not saying that camo doesnt help. Im saying define camo. A good plaid earth tone shirt can be as deceptive as camo.

Most camo patterns are to tight, making the person stand out in form.

As far as the deer walking by you, Ive had the same thing happen in blaze orange. They didnt know I was there still I clicked the safety off the 870.

Doesnt really prove anything. But if it works for you, use what you want. Just a matter of opinion:)

Yes I said earlier in my post that the plaid is a great camo because it is blotched and the blotches are big, not small.

Yeah, definitely plaid is good.

Plaid works, and so does camo (some patterns better than others) - go with what you like and works best in your environment, or go with a really general break-up pattern that will work in lots of different environments, such as ASAT or Vias.

Honestly, I don't understand why some trad folks look down on wearing camo, just becuase they've personally chosen not to wear it. Fred Bear, Art Laha, Bob Munger and many other icons of our sport have all been pictured frequently wearing camo. Were they not "trad" when they were doing it?

Isn't the fact that you're trying to get extremely close to a wary animal with a stick and string hard enough already? If camo helps you blend in, or at least makes you feel more confident about blending in, then I say use it, and who cares what others think!

Fred started wearing camo around 1959 because Bear Archery was selling it at that time. Read bows on the Little Delta. The photo above is an advertising photo for Winona Sportswear, Bob Fratzke design sweaters. Fred was a great salesman and knew what hunters wanted. A good product by the way. I still have one from 1978'ish that I wear a good bit.

Some folks just don't use it, doesn't mean we hate it or look down on folks who do. You are taking from the conversation what you want to read and telling us what we are saying. You would be wrong for the most part.

I have some pieces of camo, and most of my buddies use it. So tell me how that is "looking down" on camo. I just don't think it does anymore than other clothes, and it is normally more expensive since you have to pay the royalties for the pattern along with the product. I take it from your reaction that you think it is necessary..so maybe you are looking down on us for not using it??

Thanks, George. My comment wasn't directed at you specifically, and I don't think there's any need for you to get so defensive and take it personally.

My comment was just a general observation, and I'm willing to bet most of us have seen that attitude at one time or another - the, "you're less traditional if you wear camo" mentality. Personally, I really don't care at all what others wear.

And no George, I don't think it's 'necessary' (though I do think it can help) and no, I'm not looking down on anyone for not using it. Wouldn't that be rather silly?

Yes....it would be very silly. ))

And another yes....as some think "trad" is a religion that occurred in their time on earth.

"...as some think "trad" is a religion that occurred in their time on earth."

Ain't that the truth?

Back on topic, here's a pic I snapped at about 12 yards yesterday wearing some 'Vias' camo (very similar to the classic Winona pattern) on my upper body, and solid color pants while playing around with shooting from my hammock seat. I'm seated at the base of the big aspen. I think this pattern works great in lots of different environments, unlike many of the "picture-perfect' types of camos that seek to recreate specific types of vegetation, etc. But of course, no camo is 'magic' - you still need to use terrain and shadow to your advantage, among all the other usual things.

Same pic in B&W.

Cool pic hammer....

camos ok just not necessary. I have shoot deer in blue jeans. I just chose to spend my money on other things like arrows Iam always losing or breaking. If I was to buy I think the ultimate camo looks as good as you can get.

Step away from the tree.

I think we'll all agree that we are not ALL going to agree. I myself would like to be like the Predator and become invisible. Would have worked out well also when I was a younger man:)

bigdog " I killed wearing blue jeans "

But you have to remember : THAT Particular time, the wind was just right, the deer may have been focused on something else, you may have been partially blocked by a tree, shrubbery, etc.

That Particular Time things were right. You cannot possibly set precedence from that , that all deer from now on cannot see blue jeans.

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