Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


How bad is this?

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THRC 21-Jul-14
THRC 21-Jul-14
joep003 22-Jul-14
joep003 22-Jul-14
camodave 22-Jul-14
THRC 22-Jul-14
Mike Mecredy 22-Jul-14
George D. Stout 22-Jul-14
4nolz@work 22-Jul-14
Jeff Durnell 22-Jul-14
From: THRC
Date: 21-Jul-14

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I put a pair of Samick Journey limbs from Lancaster onto an old Martin Jaguar riser to make an inexpensive 35# target bow. I padded the underside of the limbs with Gorilla Tape and bolted them on with Martin limb bolts, and shot it for a week.

Then I inspected it closely, and these Samick limbs have no belly lamination over the limb wedge at all. 8^[ Just the black bowglass over the wedge, no belly lam.

So, how long would you more experienced folks on the 'Wall give these limbs before they break? The riser and limbs are not modified. Any help would be appreciated, and Lancaster has reviews on these where they stated that they had replaced broken ones for customers.

This is the wedge under the 2 back lams at the riser.

TinHorn

From: THRC
Date: 21-Jul-14

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This is where the wedge ends and the 2 back lams continue with bowglass on back and belly.

I wish I had known about this before I bought these, but at 62" and 8" of brace height, only shooting 35# I hope they last at least a few seasons. This is my backyard practice bow, and if any of you have seen me shoot, you know how much I need the practice.......

TIA

TinHorn

From: joep003
Date: 22-Jul-14




I'm no expert, but I don't know why it would even be a problem; especially, if it's not a problem on the bow for which these limbs were designed. Many longbows don't have a belly lam over the wedge, and I think some of the old Groves recurves didn't either. As long as it's padded between the belly glass and the riser, I don't think you have a thing to worry about.

From: joep003
Date: 22-Jul-14




I've got an old Ben Pearson Flame Hunter, and it's designed exactly the same way...and it only has a single core lam in the limbs.

From: camodave
Date: 22-Jul-14




Take a look at a Robertson Fatal Styk limb sometime...totally different quality of limb but similar construction

DDave

From: THRC
Date: 22-Jul-14




Thanks, guys!

I like the bow, and it is my only target bow I can hit with, so it gets shot every day. The original maple riser I made for it was a lousy shooter, and this ugly alloy riser is a great shooter, noisy, crooked as a roadkill rattlesnake, but it hits the mark just fine if I anchor and release halfway decent. I like this one......

TinHorn

From: Mike Mecredy
Date: 22-Jul-14




no belly lams isn't a problem. Lots of Hill styled longbows are built that way and LOTS more load applied to the fadeouts than a take down recurve.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jul-14




Metal bows ain't ugly. Compound bows am ugly.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 22-Jul-14




cant expect alot of lams@35#

is the limb pocket at least 4" long?

From: Jeff Durnell Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-Jul-14




No doubt about it, a belly lam helps distribute any additional stress found at the end of the wedge. There are other factors as well... draw weight, wedge taper, limb taper, number of lams, glass thickness, etc. I have seen recurves fail in this area and some of them were the Groves takedown recurves that were mentioned above. They utilized a single maple lam over the wedge, with glass on front and back. The glass failed at the end of the wedge on all of them.

The fact that yours is 35 lbs should help. I'd just shoot it and keep an eye on it.





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