So since Teresa doesn't do pants where can I order some from? My GOODWILL never has MY SIZES...I like many others can not do $300 pants.....Looking for 42 x 34's

Take a peek at Sportsman's Guide.

They often have surplus wool pants sold in multiple batches for extremely low prices. The sizes are all over the map, and vary quite a bit from country to country (for instance, Germany's "Medium" might be Romania's "XXL"). You may need to call them and have someone take a quick measurement on a specific pair in the warehouse ... they are quite accommodating if you ask.

A pair of suspenders and a bit of cuff-rolling or hemming may be in order if you go this route and end up a bit over-large.

But some genuine deals are often to be found there.

Hope this helps.

thanks will try them. No idea what a local seamstress would charge , could be almost sweat pants type for me pockets would be nice but ....

Check these out Bill.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/big-bill-8-pointers- wool-pants?a=533441

will have a look George thanks

I bought a pair of the cabelas legacy suoerwash wool pants. They are 24 oz wool. They have cargo pockets as well. I wear them every time I hunt in cool/cold weather. I couldn't be happier. Found my son a pair on eBay. He will outgrow them and I will have a second pair then.

I bought a pair with the windstop lining. They were too noisy for stalking so I cut out the lining with my knife and now they are fine, I forget where they were from but likely Cabelas.

The Cabelas Superwash doesn't show a 34" length.

Good wool even at $300, it would be the last pair you ever buy and worth it. Just a thought.

You don't have to pay that kind of money for good wool. You pay that for highly advertised brand name stuff, mostly copyrighted camouflage brands.

A good pair of military surplus will probably last us our lifetime. It did our grandfathers.

Use the Google and search Military wool pants. Lots of NEW old stock stuff out there on the cheap. Cheap as in price but not in quality. I bought three pair for 9.99 + shipping and these will last a lifetime and then some.

Agree Bushbow. I have a pair that I bought about twenty years back and they are still in excellent condition. I expect they will easily outlive me, and the quality is top notch.

Big Bill "woodsman" pants are nice and not crazy expensive. I'm planning to get some. My brother in law has a pair.

I've gotten used Woolrich Bibs off of eBay. Love them,

42 waist is going to be hard to find in military surplus...ron

ron, I found some at Sportsman's Guide for him. They had 42.

Search out some Army/Navy stores that carry surplus. My buddy picked up a pair of 100% heavy duty Gray wool pants made in Sweden for under $30.

While we're on the subject, if anyone knows of a good quality, but lightweight, pair of wool cargo pants, I'd love to hear about it, and I'd pay pretty good money for them. While I love wool, the wool pants I've been able to find are way too heavy for much active hunting, and would cook me inside out for anything other than late season sitting. As a result, I usually use a lighter-weight synthetic pant and layer under it as needed.

I've got 2 pair of the Cabelas Superwash pants. One pair is about 10 years old, the 2nd I bought 2 years ago on sale. I've been really happy with them. While they don't list a 34" inseam, they run VERY long. I wear 30/32 pants and had to cut about 6" off both pairs.

You can go to the army navy stores for some that are priced less but they never carried them long enough for my liking. Filson are the brand that fit my length. Although price tag was more, got a few pair when they made everything in Seattle.

I have a pair of Codets in green and one pair from LL Bean,(in camo) 85% wool, the ones from LL Bean seem a bit heavier. Both were reasonably priced. According to my wife hemming them is not labor intensive or expensive, I'd leave a few inches folded in at the hem in case they shrink or I grow. Den

The LL Bean pants are the Maine Guide pants without the liner, they sell for $99.00 the best deal I could find so I bought the matching jacket, they're both quite nice garments.

I like how guys who have cheap wool think it's as good as a top of the line wool but never owned top of the line wool. Morons. It's day and night.

For us morons, what makes do you consider top of the line?

KOM and grey wolf for heavy, First lite for lite pant. I have army surplus and they just don't compare. Guys that come on here like experts but never tried on the tight weave wool are BS'ers. Army surplus is ok but don't claim its great. You will freeze your ass off in real cold weather with army surplus. The big guy should look at bibs and not pants if he intends to be a cold weather sitter IMHO. George's word isn't law on Leatherwall by the way.

You can get the legacy pants without the windstopper lining. Seems most folks cut it out anyway even though it costs a hundred or more extra. The pair I got for my son that I mentioned earlier had the lining already out. Sorry they don't have the right size for You sbhtr. I think you would like them.

Kstuff, You know a fella could just simply share his own experience rather than try to insult people who haven't had the same experience. Calling people morons? Really? Where did that come from. Peace.

There definitely are difference between "cheap" wool and good, high quality wool. There are especially differences between 'recycled' wool, which is often used in cheaper wool products, and 'virgin' wool. The former is usually stripped of most of its lanolin, and chopped into shorter fibers, in the recycling process, negating much of wool's benefits.

Day one has really nice wool pants and ll beans maine guid pants are really nice. I've had a pair of woolrich wool pants for at least 10 years or more and there still going strong.

I have worn a lot of army surplus wool. I bought a set of Silent Predator wool several years ago and it is night and day better than army surplus.

Too bad we lost Sleeping Indian to diabetes. If you only new... soft as marshmallow baby. Columbia, Filson, give me a break!

Seen your size in some good used pants check out some of the other sites and you might snag a pair of the high line pants pretty resonable. I have in the past even for big boy pants too. Deals are around especially now. Woolrich also the gray with the red stripes and great.

What weight is the day one wool?

Some of the best hunting pants of wool are old suit pants you find at the second hand stores. Unless it's really cold out, a good set of wool underwear and light wool suit pants will fill the bill nicely.

Don't overlook auction sites, tag sales and even craigs list. I've been driving down the road and noticed a pair of heavy wool red plaid pants hanging at a tag sale many times, unfortunately haven't yet found a pair my size.

And as George Stout points out,'dress' pants are still darn good wool.

If camo is a concern, remember deer aren't as visually adept as consumers!

I guess I am a moron, too. I have been using a pair of Swedish wool mil surplus for 35 years. The European militaries have been wearing wool before we were a nation and seem to have form and function down. Ever notice the German and Russians do not have sleeping bags? They wore wool, European wool, great coats. They simply pulled their legs up in the coat to sleep.

That said I have a pair of Beans and have to rate them about the same. Bean seem a little softer, but brighter, shine more, but are not a degree warmer. I have both to compare, anyone else have a basis for real comparison? I might add I have spent a few winters in Alaska, taught survival in the Sierras and did the Norway winter with the Marines. I know cold and how to live in it.

When it is below freezing wear poly long johns. Thickness, or weight, will depend on how much your moving and how cold it is. In the teens and sitting, expedition weight poly with Filson Wool Makinaw pants or bibs on top. If it is windy, wear a pair of windbreaker pants directly under the wool. In warmer weather or more active hunts just wear silk long johns underneath, you will be sweating like a pig wearing wind block material when you are walking around...

I heard these are nice--- http://www.ccsutlery.com/store/wool-coats-jackets-pants.html I'm going to order a vest

When I was able to hunt I bought WW11 German military wool pants from the big auction site and for late season hunting these are great and the cost is more that reasonable.

Grouse

P.S. Dull gray in color.

nibbler,

Thanks for that site, I'll be trying that Summit Soup.

I sat in some pretty cold weather this last year with my Swedish military pants. Love the cut and the leather boot straps on the bottom. $30

Gaur, I have a pair of those and they will outlive me I'm sure.

I saved my money and bought KOM bibs over 20 yrs ago ...I still have them and still wear them all the time. They are the most comfortable garment I wear and perform in the Fall and the Winter. I know they are super expensive but I will be passing these down for sure. The cut is made for hunting and the features are bowhunting specific ... you really cant go wrong. Go to the big auction site and see if you can win a bid!

These are the best dang pants I've had. Wish the front zipped but...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-HEAVY-WOOL-MILITARY-HIKING-MOUNTAINEERING-CARGO-PANTS-OLIVE-GREEN-34-X-30-/301138906168?pt=US_CSA_MC_Pants&hash=item461d470c38

The MilSurp wool isn't all the same.

I have an old pair of M-1951 (lighter green) and a pair of "Serge" wool Type II Class 6 (brown/green) .They aren't extremely warm but they are a great value and hold up well. Good for earlier season cold weather. The Serge Wool (Twill) are built more like strong dress pants.

My Woolrich Bibs (the dark grey w/red stripes etc) are substantially thicker than the US Milsurp

THEN I have a pair of Alois Heiss KG grey wool pants from 1964. OVERBUILT Big cargo pockets, strong lined pockets with flaps even on the front pockets, lots of lining, unfortunately button front but at least you don't get "Cold Zipper Syndrome" :)

I also got a pair of used Columbia wool Camo pants. These are like wearing a blanket. Soft and puffy, reinforced (kind of padded) knees.

I like them all and through trial and error I have figured out what works best for the situation. In in TN and there are lots of hunting days that start out wet and cold/high humidity in the 15-20F range but up in the 40's int he afternoon.

If you underdress, you end up cold for a few hours. If you overdress, you sweat and end up cold all day!

Check out Stormy Krommer (the same company that makes awesome wool hats) They make a nice pair of pants that wear like iron and are nice and soft. Been wearing mine of about 5years now. Love them!

Killintuff enough !

I own sleeping Indian wool . Too bad the price has went crazy now that the owner has passed. My woolrich and Columbia let the wind blow right thru. Buy the best you can afford or justify and be happy wiyh it. What did people do in the 1800's. You will survive whichever you purchase.Enjoy the woods.

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