Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


1 piece Vs 2 piece longbow

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cjohnsjf 29-Jun-14
bodymanbowyer 29-Jun-14
George D. Stout 29-Jun-14
longbowdave 29-Jun-14
habu john 29-Jun-14
Flyne 29-Jun-14
falcon 29-Jun-14
PASQUINEL 29-Jun-14
BigJim 30-Jun-14
PopeandYoung_51 30-Jun-14
rpk@work 30-Jun-14
cjohnsjf 30-Jun-14
dougedwards 30-Jun-14
TradbowBob 30-Jun-14
Biathlonman 30-Jun-14
GF 30-Jun-14
cjohnsjf 30-Jun-14
TradbowBob 02-Jul-14
Cjohnsjf 18-Jul-14
camodave 19-Jul-14
From: cjohnsjf
Date: 29-Jun-14




I am getting ready to order a Wes Wallace longbow and would like some input on the two piece option, is there any negative points to consider.

Thanks, John

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 29-Jun-14




Well a two piece you will always b dealing with brace height. Every time you take it down. One piece the string stays on the bow and does not untwist.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 29-Jun-14




You shouldn't worry about it. As for the string, you can let it attached to the lower limb and slip the loop over the other one. That way it won't twist and lengthen. Not really a big deal as I see it. As for which to pick, that is only your choice. I rarely take them down but it is handy now and then.

From: longbowdave Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 29-Jun-14




I looked at those pretty hard, as I want a 2-piece. Ended up ordering a Great northern with the jack knife. Either one would be pretty handy to have close by. W_Wallace bows are sure pretty tho. I wouldn't be concerned about brace height, just clip both string loops together if you take it off.

From: habu john Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 29-Jun-14




When you don't take them down very often then no issue with the strings. When you travel it is so nice to take them down and pack them up, even inside your luggage. I often have a take down in the truck just in case I want to stump shoot or stop by a friends to fling a few arrows. My one piece sees a lot less action because of it being harder to travel with.

From: Flyne
Date: 29-Jun-14




The 2pc have a bit more weight in the riser but iv never had any problems as a result from the 2pc only up sides of alot more portable bows and cheeper to post

From: falcon
Date: 29-Jun-14




I like the one piece.

From: PASQUINEL
Date: 29-Jun-14




I have 3 one piece longbows and one bowbolt longbow. I've had the bowbolt since Dec. 2005 with no problems.

The system that Black Widow and Big Jim uses looks to be the very same system. I believe it's very reliable.The extra weight of a 2 piece system could be a good thing.

In fact I'm thinking about converting one of my longbows to a 2 piece using the Big Jim or BW system.

The problem with the metal sleeve system is that you have little choice of the way the grip is shaped.

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 30-Jun-14
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The one piece will do everything that the two piece does.....except travel easy.

BigJIm

From: PopeandYoung_51
Date: 30-Jun-14




I feel a TD is the way to go. I'm not sure of the Wallace TD system, but many TD systems add mass to the riser making a TD bow much more forgiving.

+ what BigJim said.

From: rpk@work
Date: 30-Jun-14




I bought (used) a Big Jim's one-piece and thought I had my "forever" bow. Not long after that, in a moment of weakness, I bought a Big Jim's two-piece(again, used) of similar specs. I am now taking my one-piece to Denton Hill to sell.

In my view, as stated above, a two-piece can do everything a one-piece can do, plus break down for easier traveling. It also feels like shooting a one-piece. That's a win-win in my book.

From: cjohnsjf
Date: 30-Jun-14




thanks for the replies. Sounds like there are no down sides to a 2 piece. I think that how I will go.

Tommyboy I also know Dave W. and he makes a very nice bow. I Considered it ,but was looking for just a little more reflex.

From: dougedwards
Date: 30-Jun-14




Sometimes the two piece must have a larger grip area to accomodate the stability required for stamina in the riser. Us guys who dislike large grip throats might have a hard time with that.

Doug

From: TradbowBob
Date: 30-Jun-14

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I own 2 Wes Wallace takedown longbows, so you can see that I think that they are a good choice.

For travel, there is no comparison. You can break them down and fit them in a suitcase with no problem.

As far as the string twist/brace height issue that was mentioned, it is really not a big deal. You can make a mark on your arrow that is the proper brace height, and then just set the string if you need to adjust it. Heck, almost every string stretches some, so you eventually have to adjust all of them.

The take down system that Wes uses provides a little more weight in the handle which makes the bow absolutely dead in your hand. I shot some "Hill" style longbows before I got my Wallace. They made my teeth hurt. Nothing but pleasure shooting a Wallace.

TBB

From: Biathlonman
Date: 30-Jun-14




Only negative to a two piece is price and that's a small price to pay for the ease of travel. I see no reason to have a one piece bow anymore.

From: GF
Date: 30-Jun-14




I dunno….

Given the choice between a really sweet-shooting 1-piece and a so-so 2-piece, I’d probably pick the better shooter and just mail it out to myself ahead of time if I were going on a big trip.

Have to agree about the mass of the riser lending a degree of forgiveness & stability; I’m a LOT more consistent with my TD.

But on the other hand, I much prefer the ease-of-carry that I get with my 1-piece…. I don’t much care for the balance of the 1-piece with a bow quiver on it, but it takes a 6-arrow quiver to get the bow up to the same mass weight of the TD when it’s nekkid….

From: cjohnsjf
Date: 30-Jun-14




TBB Is your grip any larger than a one piece? I talked to Wes about his grips and he said they are narrow and should be fine for me. (I was concerned about a large grip I have small hands). I wasn't considering a 2 piece at that time. I 'll ask him when I order. I have his Mentor in a 43# 64 " hunting bow. Love it. Was considering going with a 40# 68" it will be for 3d.

From: TradbowBob
Date: 02-Jul-14




I find the grip very comfortable. It is quite different from the Mentor, I own 2 of those also, but it is a nice "locator"type of grip.

You will be very happy with the bow.

TBB

From: Cjohnsjf
Date: 18-Jul-14




TBB I orderd a take down . This is going to be a 3d bow. Orderd a. 40# 68" . Hope I am not going to light. I hunt with a 43#. Mentor. Most shoots are 25yd max. I ask wes if he thought it would have enough cast. He said it would .I am a gapper and want a 25 poa Any thoughts ? I also talked to wes about my mentor grip. He said he could rework it . Going to make it smaller at the palm .

From: camodave
Date: 19-Jul-14




For 3D use only you do not have to worry about arrow weight like you would for hunting so you simply shoot the minimum weight arrows that Mr. Wallace recommends...bowyers differ on what that may be...I have two bows that I will shoot 7 gpp with the bowyers approval...never had a bit of trouble because of it...if you find your 25 poa trumps trajectory simply adjust it with point weight as the simplest way to change overall arrow weight as long as you are shooting carbon...trade offs are a fact of life in our sport and an enjoyable challenge

DDave





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