Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Wing Recurve

Messages posted to thread:
Pinecrest 21-Apr-14
George D. Stout 21-Apr-14
BATMAN 21-Apr-14
yorktown5 21-Apr-14
crookedstix 21-Apr-14
Kelly 22-Apr-14
IaHawkeye 22-Apr-14
Shirt 22-Apr-14
bowdoc 22-Apr-14
Kelly 23-Apr-14
yorktown5 23-Apr-14
crookedstix 23-Apr-14
Buzz 23-Apr-14
Surfbow 23-Apr-14
Kelly 23-Apr-14
Pdiddly 27-Apr-14
apachearrow 27-Apr-14
Kelly 27-Apr-14
Pdiddly 27-Apr-14
Kelly 27-Apr-14
Pdiddly 28-Apr-14
Pinecrest 06-May-14
Kelly 06-May-14
Woody 07-May-14
Kelly 07-May-14
Woody 07-May-14
Kelly 07-May-14
Butternut40 08-May-14
From: Pinecrest
Date: 21-Apr-14




Can anyone tell me about a Wing Recurve Serial No. HA2648?Any info will be appreciated.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Apr-14




Wing made many models, have to know what it is...not just Wing. Photo? Length?

From: BATMAN
Date: 21-Apr-14




Pinecrest? Per Mr. Stout....1 piece? Take down? What other info can You give us? Photo MUCH appreciated. STAY SAFE / WELL / COMFORTABLR & BLESSED BE! Batman

From: yorktown5
Date: 21-Apr-14




Numbers are no help on a Wing. Style, construction detail, label type and ownership markings determine a born on date but seldom closer than within a couple years.

From: crookedstix
Date: 21-Apr-14




Pinecrest, I'll bet that initial HA in your serial number means it's a model called the Hawk. . . which as I recall may have been more of an entry level bow; sort of a shorter version of the Falcon maybe? Try doing a Google image search for the Hawk; you might recognize your bow. Kerry

From: Kelly
Date: 22-Apr-14




The HA in the serial number means it is a bow made by Head Ski and could also be for a takedown handle.

From: IaHawkeye
Date: 22-Apr-14




HA means Head Ski ? I've had several Wing bows made by head ski corp., never noticed those letters.

From: Shirt
Date: 22-Apr-14

Shirt's embedded Photo



I have a 62 inch 45 pound Wing Falcon made by AMF. I love it. I can't shoot it's maximum potential but, is a fun. See picture.

From: bowdoc
Date: 22-Apr-14




I believe HA was also on some later take downs I'll check and see if I have any of the serial numbers writen down ..... no pics ? bd

From: Kelly
Date: 23-Apr-14




The letter "A" was added to the other serial letter when Head Ski owned Wing Like Thunderbird is TA-then numbers, Presentation was PA-numbers, Red Wing Hunter was RA. Previous to Head Ski the above models were T-numbers for Thunderbird, P-numbers for Presentation and R-numbers or RWH-numbers for Red Wing Hunter.

Also the Presentation II limbs were LA-number and handles were HA-numbers. Prior to Head they were L-numbers and H-numbers. When AMF owned it there was a second "A" added to the handle and limb serial letters.

From: yorktown5
Date: 23-Apr-14




Kelly, where's your info coming from? I ask because there are no records and some time back Bob Lee said he couldn't remember all this.

That and while your S/N info fits, there are anomalies. My own P-II for example (HH-4xx) is a 58", only the poundage labels on the limb (no S/N) and the Wing Logo doesn't have the Head add on. But Some said no 58" P2s before Head. Hmmm...

From: crookedstix
Date: 23-Apr-14




Kelly's info matches my two sets of P-II limbs-- both Head Ski era, both are LA serial letters. So L=limb and A=Head Ski era? Thanks Kelly!

From: Buzz
Date: 23-Apr-14




"Prior to Head they were L-numbers and H-numbers"

Just check my early PII.

H-973S.

From: Surfbow
Date: 23-Apr-14




I have a Head Ski Falcon that is #FA11244

From: Kelly
Date: 23-Apr-14




Yorktown;

What is your handle made of-rosewood/micarta or all micarta? Did you purchased it new? If not over the years limbs and handles from different era's become one bow.

Remember what I said above that the white Wing decal with no Head Ski on it are transition bows. The serial numbers for limbs can not be seen while mounted on the handle.

My information comes from many, many years of collecting Wings plus talking to Bob several decades ago. Agree that there are no written records available but after looking at 1000's of Wings over the years a pattern emerges along with the decals that have city of production.

Yes there are anomalies like some of the very early maple and rosewood Red Wing Hunters serial number started with RW and really early ones just an R.

Here is another tidbit. Virtually all Wing bows up to AMF had the serial number/bow weight/etc written on them by Charlotte Lee, Bob's wife-she had a very distinct style. For me it is easy to see if a bow was refinished or not.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 27-Apr-14

Pdiddly's embedded Photo



Here's a picture of the riser on my original (pre Head Ski) Red Wing Hunter. It has the RW serial number as noted by Kelly.

Is that the printing done by Charlotte as I have seen that same script on other bows of that era?

From: apachearrow
Date: 27-Apr-14




I have a Red Wing Hunter (my first bow) that I bought in 1972 new. It is a LH 58" 44# and serial # RW8449. I am not sure if it a Head Ski produced model or if it had just been sitting in the Sporting Goods/hardware store in Enid, Ok for a few years before I bought it. Anybody have a clue? It looks just like the one in Pdiddly's above photo.

From: Kelly
Date: 27-Apr-14




It must have sat in that store for 6 years. The bubinga handled red wing hunters with RW serial letters were built in 1965-66.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 27-Apr-14




Thanks for putting a date of manufacture on that bow Kelly...they're very simple looking but really a great design.

I find the provenance and history end of trad archery very fascinating...I enjoy dropping into various threads (that deal with different bow manufacturers) that pop to the top once in a while when someone adds a piece to the puzzle. I have a few Brownings, some Shakespeare's as well, along with some Wing's...like learning about them.

Very neat that something built 50 years ago is still perfectly capable of performing the function it was designed for...can't say that about much else in the world!

From: Kelly
Date: 27-Apr-14




Your version of the Red Wing Hunter is IMO the best shooting of all the RWH's built.

And yes, that is Mrs Bob Lee's writing.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 28-Apr-14




That's a very neat historic detail Kelly...what do you think makes them the best shooters?

From: Pinecrest
Date: 06-May-14




It's a 1974 Hawk.Anyone know the brace height?

From: Kelly
Date: 06-May-14




Not familiar with that model but would say start at 8"-then go up or down depending upon how it feels when you shoot and if it is noisy or not.

From: Woody
Date: 07-May-14

Woody's embedded Photo



Great discussion folks. Love my wing. Maybe I can get a date on mine. I know its early but would love any info. The numbers are on the limb RW452. Also have a Falcon F7 5376. Here's a pic of the Hunter.

From: Kelly
Date: 07-May-14




Dating Wings, especially the early ones need more info than just the serial number like in your case Rosewood or Bubinga handle? I am guessing rosewood because of the placement of the writing even though I do not recognize that writing style-could this bow have been refinished?

From: Woody
Date: 07-May-14




It is Bubinga as is the Falcon and does not look to be refinished. The Hunter has the tiny tips - 3 layer overlay. Though the Wing decals look and feel like they are on top of the finish. Maybe that's an indicator of refin or not. Regardless this bow Rocks!! Same on the Falcon. Just great performers and the feel is outstanding. I appreciate the feedback.

From: Kelly
Date: 07-May-14




Bubinga handles in Red Wing Hunters are 1965/1966-with your low 3 digit number I would say 1965.

The decal should be under the finish.

From: Butternut40
Date: 08-May-14




I have my Wing recurve setup for shooting carp. Should I be a little more careful with this bow? Nice shooter. My dad gave it to me and I believe he got it in the 60's.





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