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what's going on here help..

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Harialombos 19-Apr-14
Bowmania 19-Apr-14
Sipsey River 19-Apr-14
Harialombos 19-Apr-14
Marshall Law 19-Apr-14
raghorn 19-Apr-14
bbold 19-Apr-14
Pdiddly 19-Apr-14
Bjorn 20-Apr-14
Lonewolf Jim 20-Apr-14
Paul M 20-Apr-14
Jack NZ 20-Apr-14
From: Harialombos
Date: 19-Apr-14

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I keep getting this when I bare shaft tune. I have tried moving the nock. Also would feather rest make tuning easier? I really want to start shooting wood but having a hard time tuning. Last thing I think I can see my wood arrows bending in flight is it the paradox? I can't see my carbons do it. Savvana long bow 38/40 spine 100 grain tip pulling 40izh pounds 28 inch arrow 26.5 pull

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Apr-14




First of all there's 2 different kind of arrows. Get rid of the one with the yellow nock.

" Savvana long bow 38/40 spine 100 grain tip pulling 40izh pounds 28 inch arrow 26.5 pull" Have no idea what that means. Spine would be something like .600 or .500. The poundage of the bow would be something like 40 lbs at 28 and you draw 26.5 inches giving you around 35.5 pounds.

Form the picture I can't really see the impact points but it looks like the bare shaft hit low and left of the fletched. IF your right handed and that result is consistent, your arrow is stiff and you need to move the nocking point down.

Bowmania

From: Sipsey River
Date: 19-Apr-14




If you are right handed the bare shaft is too stiff. Change to a heavier point or switch to a lighter spine or longer shaft of same spine.

From: Harialombos
Date: 19-Apr-14




ok ill going to play with this setup a bit then come back with better pics and info. im a bit new with woodies. ty guys

From: Marshall Law
Date: 19-Apr-14




Agree... too stiff

From: raghorn
Date: 19-Apr-14




The fletched arrows are going into the target straight and together. You are not going to hunt using an arrow without feathers so why waste time messing with a bare shaft. You don't see guys with a rifle shooting one load for target and then after the rifle is set for that load go hunting with a different load.

From: bbold
Date: 19-Apr-14




What does a rifle have to do with tuneing arrows?

From: Pdiddly
Date: 19-Apr-14




I agree with raghorn...if you're getting consistent groups with your fletched shafts why go looking for a headache? Life presents enough of them along the way...my thoughts...

From: Bjorn Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Apr-14




Once the fletch is on you can be off by 20-25# and nothing shows up. Bareshafting will tell you if you are out by 5-10#. That is the whole point; but if you don't believe in bareshafting then don't do it. But don't discourage those that are looking for a more reliable way to great flight. ;-)

From: Lonewolf Jim
Date: 20-Apr-14




I'll throw in my 2 cents. Off hand I'd say your nock point is a bit too high, causing porpoising and throwing the arrow down toward the target..

As for bare shaft tuning... I shoot 3D and get caught in wet conditions on occasion. I always bareshaft tune my arrows. I spent an entire weekend in the rain during a 3D shoot about 9 years ago. I was just about the only one who had arrows that still flew well with laid down, wet fletching. If you always shoot in dry conditions, then as pointed out, you probably don't need to bother as long as they are grouping well.

From: Paul M
Date: 20-Apr-14




If ur fletch get wet than u shoot crap

From: Jack NZ
Date: 20-Apr-14




If your bare shaft does not impact straight on or if it's waving about on impact it can/will effect perfect penetration on live targets.

We need to bareshaft and record results for further use.

We want our arrow hitting dead straight with zero incoming flex.

We don't want to fletch over faults and pretend they don't exist because they usually come back to get us when we lest expect it.

Tuning the bow to the arrow is easier with a bare shaft because the results of any change show more clearly and can be measured and recorded.

The first step to accuracy is perfect arrow flight.

Amen.





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