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Save the planet, shoot a pig...

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Trillium 13-Aug-12
GF 13-Aug-12
Pilgrim 13-Aug-12
hoyt 13-Aug-12
SteveBNY 13-Aug-12
Trillium 13-Aug-12
GF 13-Aug-12
Trillium 13-Aug-12
SteveBNY 13-Aug-12
WV Mountaineer 13-Aug-12
TradHuntDon 13-Aug-12
GF 13-Aug-12
WV Mountaineer 13-Aug-12
SteveBNY 13-Aug-12
TradArcher771 13-Aug-12
Coldtrail 13-Aug-12
JamesV 13-Aug-12
George D. Stout 13-Aug-12
woodsman 13-Aug-12
JLBSparks 13-Aug-12
JohnBoy 13-Aug-12
killinstuff 13-Aug-12
Woods Walker 13-Aug-12
Shadowstalker 13-Aug-12
Harleywriter 13-Aug-12
Wudstix 13-Aug-12
kp 14-Aug-12
the Black Spot 14-Aug-12
HomeadeBow 15-Aug-12
fuzzy 15-Aug-12
MikeW 15-Aug-12
traxx 15-Aug-12
WV Mountaineer 15-Aug-12
SteveBNY 15-Aug-12
Linecutter 15-Aug-12
From: Trillium
Date: 13-Aug-12




Once again, archery is on the cutting-edge of environmentalism!

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2 012/08/hunt_wild_pigs_for_the_environment_kill_and_eat_in vasive_species_.html

From: GF
Date: 13-Aug-12




Yep, a lot of folks think it's hopeless, but hey, we got rid of those pesky buffalo and passenger pigeons, didn't we?

No pigs to hunt where I am. Not yet, anyway. Actually not looking forward to seeing them break into the state, but when they do, I hope I'll be able to get access to them.

Not "if". When.

From: Pilgrim
Date: 13-Aug-12




Got this error:

Sorry, the page you are looking for has moved. You may have clicked an expired link or mistyped the address. Some web addresses are case sensitive. Thanks for reading!

From: hoyt
Date: 13-Aug-12




Deer ain't faring too bad either. When I started hunting them in Ga. there wasn't even a season in about 90% of the state. It's dangerous to drive around here in Il. at night so many along the roads.

From: SteveBNY
Date: 13-Aug-12




Buffalo and passenger pigeons where not wiped out or even effected by those with bows.

Pigs won't be either. That is why I get a chuckle from those who can't understand landowners not falling all over themselves to let bowhunters "help" them with their pig problem.

From: Trillium
Date: 13-Aug-12




Hmmm Let's try this cut-and-paste... Sorry

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/08/hunt_wild_pigs_f or_the_environment_kill_and_eat_invasive_species_.html

From: GF
Date: 13-Aug-12




Sorry, Steve.. I was referring to all forms of hunting, because if we want to keep deer or pigs in check, tradbows are the wrong tool for the job.

That's what makes them so much fun to hunt with :D

Trillium's link won't probably work because of the stray space in "pigs_f or_the envir..."

If you paste the link and delete that space before you hit "enter", it should work...

From: Trillium
Date: 13-Aug-12




GF -- That's it. Its odd, the Stickbow site breaks the address there with a space... But it is not spaced in any other place I paste the original link...

Anyway... Keep shooting and eating pigs!

From: SteveBNY
Date: 13-Aug-12




Sorry - wasn't singling you out - just addressing a common misconception about pig control and bowhunting.

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 13-Aug-12




Trad bows are not the whole answer but they can be part of the resolution. That is why I get cracked up hearing guys like Steve. They will never be a problem in WV. I say that now and let it be proved correct in the future. Oh wait, already has been proven correct. God BLess

From: TradHuntDon
Date: 13-Aug-12

TradHuntDon's embedded Photo



Here you go Boys. Too many spaces between certain characters.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/08/hunt_wild_pigs_for_the_environment_kill_and_eat_invasive_species_.html Better import some pigs before I get there Justin. They be delicious! God Bless, Don

From: GF
Date: 13-Aug-12




Trill - I think if you expand the reply box to your full screen width before you paste, it might stop doing that.. probably gets stuck in there when the text wraps...

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 13-Aug-12




The state started trying in the 80's Don and achieved quite a bit of success. They started out with a bang. Then they started getting into peoples gardens and such. Country folk give no varmits a free pass and the hogs were no different. Probably never get rid of them as the loclas in Logan, Wyoming, and Boone county kinda called a truce with them because they were decimated and the low numbers didn't impact their gardens anymore. They are scattred here and there but very few remain and when they get established again I imagine pork chops will be on the menu pretty frequently in those places.

I understand from people in the know who hunt these things that a neighboring county that wasn't even stocked with them has more now then the original counties. I also understand that some have escaped into the Mongahelia Natinal Forest over around Greenbank in the eastern part of the state now. They might become a problem in time due to access constraints. Just have to wait and see. God Bless

From: SteveBNY
Date: 13-Aug-12




Justin - Glad a statement of fact can give you a "chuckle". No bows including trad are even on the radar for controlling pig populations. They barely make a dent even with most deer populations or any animals that breed and grow like pigs, deer, coyotes and others. Hunting them with the equipment we do is for enjoyment for the most part and contribute almost nothing to the control of invasive species.

From: TradArcher771
Date: 13-Aug-12




You will never completely get rid of a pig population, never. They have 2-3 litters a year with 10-15 piglets in each one. In one year the babies are sexually mature and can start having babies themselves........do the math. I live in Texas they are everywhere and I've hunted them along time. In Texas we have helicopter/machinegun hunting you can do and is done often. kills alot, but not enough and there back in the same numbers in about a year and a half.

You can not get rid of them, but you can control them, good luck boys :)

From: Coldtrail
Date: 13-Aug-12




I get fired up when topics come up about controlling wild populations, like wolves and big cats or any native species. But I'm all for exterminating wild pigs. They don't belong here.

From: JamesV
Date: 13-Aug-12




The game and fish killed 600 hogs during the high water several years ago, didn't even make a dent and they are back with a vengence. They are out of control here and no amount of bowhunting will make any difference, or gun hunting for that matter.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Aug-12




We have them in Pa. as well, and all the counties now are opened up to them....any day of the year. They are invasive species and destructive beyond measure. They shoot them on sight here, and rightly so.

From: woodsman
Date: 13-Aug-12




So, do I understand correctly..

I can hunt pigs without paying for a non-resident tag.

Landowners will let me hunt them for free.

If so, where??

thanks woodsman

From: JLBSparks
Date: 13-Aug-12




Supposedly, they are in the next county over to the southeast, but they are not here, YET! I'd like to hunt them, but I don't want to HAVE to hunt them, especially in my own back yard!!

-Joe

From: JohnBoy
Date: 13-Aug-12




Hogs are my off-season quarry. Here in MS it's legal to take them day or night and year round outside of deer and turkey season. We usually run in packs when hunting hogs...more guns = more pork on the ground.

From: killinstuff
Date: 13-Aug-12




If Texas had more public land, stopped subsadised feeding of deer and let water holes dry up, there wouldn't be a hog problem. Humans are the cause of the hogs. But that's fine with me. I love going south a few time each year to hunt them.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 13-Aug-12




Why bring Rosie O'Donnell into this?

From: Shadowstalker
Date: 13-Aug-12




4 legs or 2? Getting tired of cleaning up the mess fromt the two legged ones here. beggining to think a Judo in the butt cheek would do them some good.

From: Harleywriter
Date: 13-Aug-12




coyotes, cockroaches and hogs will be the last critters, some say.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 13-Aug-12




Shoot all that you see, please.

From: kp
Date: 14-Aug-12




i'm in nys and would love to hunt them......if only i knew where to look. anyone care to share - sightings and locations....i spend the entire summer off .... mostly stumping and looking for red squirrels. i could spend the summer looking for wild pigs....now that would be sweet:)

From: the Black Spot
Date: 14-Aug-12




they will probably be the only thing left to eat after the big countries nuke each other. well, I am,sure the yotes, rats, and cockroaches will still be around to clean up.

From: HomeadeBow
Date: 15-Aug-12




So can anyone hunt these because they are invasive no tags or anythihng?

I have heard that the meat is inedible due to disease, is this true at all?

From: fuzzy
Date: 15-Aug-12




Homemade Bow, #1 yes, #2 No

From: MikeW
Date: 15-Aug-12




Corrected link

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/08/hunt_wild_pigs_for_the_environment_kill_and_eat_invasive_species_.html

From: traxx
Date: 15-Aug-12




Yrs ago,i was in Ca,around Hollister.People shot hogs as a pest.Ranchers and Farmers,dang near paid you to shoot em.F&G started implementing Tags for them and the Next thing you know,it was big buisness in Ca.I hear from folks down that way that Hogs are running people,out of their camps in State parks now.LOL

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 15-Aug-12




Steve, you are preaching to the choir. I know it isn't the only answer or even a large contributor to the answer, but it could be part of the answer. I probably know that to a degree better than anyone here after reading this whole thread. They are invasive, wiley, hard to kill, and very proloific. All means of extermination should be used. Trapping is the best other than posioning. But to set and say that wild hogs cannot be exterinated from almost all of its habitat is incorrect. Meat hunting has terminated more than its fair share of animals and unless controlled would do so again if we lived in like times.

It boils down to how bad do we want it and at what cost. To miss the ball game or family time we all cherish, or do we form together as a group of hunters and make the concerted effort to get it done. Food is at the store now which is why the hogs have exploded. As my example above illustartes, when people start getting after them it does matter and it will work. We just have to get over the couch time and start putting in the hunting time. 75% effort will not get it done.

And that means EVERYONE from the landowner who wants a small fortune for you to kill one to the hunter who doesn't feel like going after them. Not just half of us. And it would help if they weren't looked at as a species to come pay and hunt in the places where they are the extreme problem they are. That in itself has provided amnestiy for the critters, helping to keep the populations going. It happens with deer, mountain lions, hogs pretty regular. When hunters are willing to pay for the privelage, the animals future is pretty much solidified to expand and be succesful. Landowners get into it by charging for hunts etc... To accoplish the goal we must all work together.

It is simple, you just get after them and kill them. Poision them, trap them, hunt and shoot them. In all but the nasty thickets of lush habitat in the south, they will be eradicated. And you would sure put the numbers back in check their if everyone was on the same page.

It can be done but greed, comfort and laziness will prevent that from happening because it is easier to just say they will never be ersdicated or a bow is not a good management tool. Really? It is too easy to just go and buy what you want now, which is why the little piggies are expanding. You don't have to agree with me but to abide by most of these posters opinions would prove history wrong. I know if they ever become a problem here again or if I ever get the chance to help another out again I'll do my part by eating lots of them. But they won't until the average WV family decides it is easier to just buy it and or charge for the right to kill it. Call us Hillbillies if you want but we pretty much got that one figured right.

I say use all means nessecary, each and every tool we have at our disposal has a place, and they will all contribute. Or do as we have done and we can be moaning about this 50 years from now. God BLess

From: SteveBNY
Date: 15-Aug-12




Justin. We agree on far more things then not.

From: Linecutter
Date: 15-Aug-12




If they want them killed them why don't you see them killing the Sows with the piglets. Kill the Sow and the piglets will die, so you kill multiple pigs with one shot. For that matter just kill the sows if you want to cotrol the heard somewhat. People usually get a little squimish killing a Sow with piglets, but you gotta do, what you gotta do. DANNY





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