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Forming a nock to act as a clicker

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badger 09-Apr-11
apachearrow 09-Apr-11
badger 09-Apr-11
babysaph 09-Apr-11
tpanic41 09-Apr-11
shep 09-Apr-11
badger 09-Apr-11
hunterbob 09-Apr-11
36bound 09-Apr-11
badger 09-Apr-11
tomas 09-Apr-11
George Tsoukalas 09-Apr-11
George Tsoukalas 09-Apr-11
badger 09-Apr-11
LongbowBob 09-Apr-11
LongbowBob 09-Apr-11
Bowbaker 09-Apr-11
George Tsoukalas 09-Apr-11
George Tsoukalas 09-Apr-11
Zeno's Arrow 09-Apr-11
6point 28-Jun-17
Babysaph 28-Jun-17
George D. Stout 28-Jun-17
Legato 28-Jun-17
2 bears 29-Jun-17
6point 29-Jun-17
6point 30-Jun-17
Biathlonman 30-Jun-17
Tom Baldwin 01-Jul-17
badger 01-Jul-17
Babysaph 01-Jul-17
From: badger
Date: 09-Apr-11




Years ago I had accidently not filed down a nock properly on a self bow. I brought it to a 3 d shoot the following morning and noticed just as I hit full draw the string would jump over a little ridge on the nock giving me a very clear but tiny tick in the string that I could feel. I shot the best round I ever shot that day and have thought about using clickers ever since. Has anyone ever heard of a bowyer carving a bumb into a nock for this reason before? It seemed to work like a charm and one could easily be glued on. Steve

From: apachearrow
Date: 09-Apr-11




I never heard of that before. I am wondering if that might cause premature wear on the bowstring.

From: badger
Date: 09-Apr-11




Apache, I didn't notine any wear to speak of. The bump was very small, just enough to send a slight tick down the string to my fingers.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Apr-11




Why not just use a clicker

From: tpanic41
Date: 09-Apr-11




I would recommend the clicker. I've used one for years and love them. I would also be a little concerned that whatever made the string click while being drawn, is also going to make it click (rub) while being shot. Just a thought.

From: shep
Date: 09-Apr-11




Seems it would be tough to place the groove in the exact spot to click right at full draw. Same spot, same angle, same bevel, that would be hard to duplicate arrow to arrow.

Shep

From: badger
Date: 09-Apr-11




I wouldn't know a clicker if I saw one. Just read about them here. I probably will look into one soon. Only reason I mentioned the nock clicker is because they are not visible. It would be kind of difficult to repeat the same thing by carving it but I think you could probably divise a glue on or stick on type that was very small.

From: hunterbob
Date: 09-Apr-11




I think your onto something big.just think outside the box a bit.A little longer nock with a little switch on it or something.something cheap to make.

From: 36bound
Date: 09-Apr-11




Seems like in the long run it might be more beneficial to seek the instruction of a competent archery coach who could show you how to rely on yourself to consistently arrive at full draw. All you have to do is let go of the "I can't do it on my own" defeatist mindset.

Just a suggestion of course. Shoot how you prefer.

From: badger
Date: 09-Apr-11




Funny how these topics wander off the original question. Who said I had a defeatest mindset saying I can't reach full draw. The question was has anyone ever built one like this? I simply had a good experience using the accidental one I made and have considered it as an option. Steve

From: tomas
Date: 09-Apr-11




I would think that the most reliable way to duplicate a nock would be a molded plastic one. I would draw a blown up design and send it to a manufacturer. But I think that it was just a accident that your nock worked for you. For it to work for someone else it might be dependent bow length, string angle and draw length.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 09-Apr-11




No, I've never done that. I've all I can do to pull the bow back. LOL. I could probably use some coaching. Badger, if you had some coaching maybe you would have one a few more flight shooting titles. Ya never know. How many do you have now 2 or 3? :) Jawge

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 09-Apr-11




That's won not "one". Jawge

From: badger
Date: 09-Apr-11




Jawge, I had the bradhead record for a few years in the 50# class but lost that. Now all I have is a national record in the unlimited simple comples flight I believe. I enjoy seeing records broken. Nice to have one for a couple of years. Plan to go back soon and try to get my broadhead record back. Steve

From: LongbowBob
Date: 09-Apr-11

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If you just move the fletching on your arrows a bit forward it acts like a clicker that doesn't go click. Just set it so it bumps your nose at full draw. I learned this trick at Rick Welch's school

LNN

From: LongbowBob
Date: 09-Apr-11

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See how it works? LBB

From: Bowbaker Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 09-Apr-11




I don't think I would like that. I don't want to hear any kind of click in a bow I built, it would scare me to death everytime it sounded.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 09-Apr-11




Steve Gardener is Badger ladies and gentleman! I hope you get it back, Steve. Are you still attending the Pasadena get togethers? Jawge

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 09-Apr-11




He is also one of the author's of The Traditional Bowyer's Bible #4. He's probably aggravated with me now for saying all of this but...:) Jawge

From: Zeno's Arrow
Date: 09-Apr-11




Yes, Badger's chapter in the TBB is one of the best of the whole series IMHO.

From: 6point
Date: 28-Jun-17




Dragging this up from the deep. I'm really interested in making this work. I've destroyed a selfbow I've made trying to make a nock that gives a click or tick. I tried several times and still haven't gotten a nock to make a tick. Now I've got a bow with a lot of nocks that looks ridiculous, and still no click. If anyone has done this could you please post a picture? Or at least very detailed instruction? I want to hunt with a selfbow but am sadly unable to shoot without a clicker. Thanks for any help you can give.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 28-Jun-17




I'd just get a clicker but yes guys use that method to circumvent the rules when shooting in a class at shoots that doesn't allow a clicker

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 28-Jun-17




I have an old Hoyt clicker here that you could just tape on the sight window. You can have it if you want it. I can't help with a built-in click thingy. I can send it in a first class envelope...just let me know via PM. No charge.

From: Legato
Date: 28-Jun-17




I love my clicker. I currently only have it on one lightweight bow, but I use it to isolate the back tension. Although some use it as a psychotrigger, I don't like it for that reason because I use the limit of my back tension as my trigger. I was shooting a lot yesterday and got a good workout in my lats and rhomboids.

From: 2 bears
Date: 29-Jun-17




Some folks have no imagination. Your idea is intriguing. It would be hard to make it fit different people though. It still deserves some thought. Have you heard of hooking your thumbnail of the drawing hand under the nail of your little finger. At full draw gradually apply pressure with the thumb,toward your cheek. It will produce a slightly audible click when it slips off. Just like a "clicker" It is free,don't show,quiet,and I think would be legal for all events. Try it.>>>------> Ken

From: 6point
Date: 29-Jun-17




George, thanks for the generous offer, pm sent.

Everyone, please note I am not trying to use this to cheat in some contest or competition. I just want to hunt and have fun at shoots, and the only way I can shoot a controlled shot is with a clicker.

Thanks for any help you can give on carving a nock to act as a clicker.

From: 6point
Date: 30-Jun-17




Ttt for the self bowyer that hasn't seen this thread and had the perfect answer. Tried again last night, still got nothing.

From: Biathlonman
Date: 30-Jun-17




I think its an intriguing idea, but part of the beauty of a clicker is the adjustability of it.

How about maybe a drop of hot melt or something that the string would have to slip over?

From: Tom Baldwin Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Jul-17




Joel Turner has a couple of "psycho- triggers a guy can use if the clicker is not acceptable to you. Badger, I realize this is not what you were saying, but I'm mentioning it for those who find the idea of a clicker to be offensive. However, it's important to realize there's a reason a clicker is sometimes called a "draw- check". It's intended function is to get you to full draw. If you can consistently get there yourself, it may not be helpful. Now, Joel's use of the clicker is somewhat different than that-related, yes.

Badger, I simply don't see how your idea is repeatable, or fits into a tuning process. Not to say it doesn't work....

Hope to see you in Sept.

From: badger
Date: 01-Jul-17




I don't think it really is repeatable. I just thought it was interesting. This is an old thread, I may have been more excited about it when I opened the thread. It would be kind of a pain to tune no doubt but maybe a little round adjustable bump by the string nocks could work. I really did feel good to feel that bump just as I settled into full draw.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 01-Jul-17




Why would a clicker that helps you come to the same draw each and every time be unacceptable?





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