Anybody have any 40# bow kills they want to post up for the season? Post equipment and picture of critters killed.

I have only shot one so far.I used a bamboo/osage bow that is 40@26" with 420gn carbons tipped with the VAP Terminator broadheads.It was only a 17yd shot but the deer never knew it was dead and walked about 40yds before going down.Got a selfbow about the same weight useing the same arrows I am trying to get a shot with now.So far the deer have not been where I was. lol

That was awsome James!

I hope Steve has my 40# bow done soon, then i'll post a pic if i can remeber to take my camera.

BBO and carbon? Ain't that agin the law,lol? Congrats James!!

Yeah I know GLF.:)

Going to be worse when I shoot one with my old selfbow and those carbons too. lol

I got some nice bamboo shafts all fixed up but just don't have the confidence in them I do those black shafts.Any old bow will work but a man has to have good arrows. ;)

nice deer James. Is that a plastic rest I see on the sight window ? 8>)

Looks like a nock point to me...on the string.

Nice deer and good shooting.

Awsome James...was that a complete pass through I assume?

Thanks guys.No rest on this one but I am not beyond useing one. ;)

Yes the arrow never slowed down going through.It was slight quartering away shot and both holes stayed high.Did not have any blood trail at all except where the deer went down because the deer never ran and died so quick.Still watching them lay down undisturbed 40yds away is better than all the blood anyway.Killing them without them knowing it is as good as it gets for a bowhunter. :)

And to think James, you did that with a three blade head, and a 40 pound wood and grass bow....and a pass through. Isn't that impossible? 8^). Shows that knowing how to shoot well, good arrow flight, and picking your spot trumps anything else.

George you have got to quit believing everything you read about shooting deer and buff needing the same equipment.:)

I did a penitration test using a water balloon and popsicle stick before I went hunting.It popped the balloon so I knew it was good for whitetails.I am not out there trying to knock them down. ;) LOL

Nice deer James. The quiver matches your beautiful bow!

Bottom line.....SHOT PLACEMENT!

nice deer, good shootin. B

Amen on shot placement!

My sons first deer with a bow(40lbs). He was 9. Sorry but my camera went on the fritz so I didn't get a field pic. By the time I got an instant camera to use this was all that was left intact to take a pic of.

Nov 2008, I shot a 3 1/2 yr old Ohio buck with a 60" Treadway, 44# @ 27" at about 15 yds. Complete penetration to the flething, quartering away shot. Buck went approx. 100 yds. The arrow was a 2016 with a 160 gr STOS.

I'm only pulling 43# on this Shrew. I used a goldtip 35/55 with a 100gr brass insert and a 145gr magnus 2 blade 17 yard shot coplete pass thru. Gottem last week.

Nice! Great bucks James & pitbull.

Mark

Great deer guys! I hope to have an opportunity soon with my 42# Predator.

FF

a good story on Pete Ward's outdoor world about killing a moose with a 41# stalker recurve.

I was impressed.

Congratulations for those clean kills.

bigo

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A boar I shot up in the Basalt country of Nt. Queensland with a 42# recurve I built myself....Glenn....

Way back when I first started making strings, I had a neighbor come by with an old 40# bear recurve. He needed a string, arrows and broadheads. He told me the guys at the pro shop laughed at him and asked what he was going to shoot with that!

Well I got him fixed up with some aluminum arrows and 125 gr. Snuffers and he killed a deer a few days later . . . a complete pass through!

He got the last laugh.

Michael

My friends Daughter got a nice sow hog with a 37# hickory self bow..still looking for pics

42# Black Widow PLX, 500 grain Sitka Spruce shaft and 130 grain STOS broadhead, 20 yard shot, 60 yard recovery. Fall of 2008.

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Gee James Wren, you're everywhare. I was looking up metal riser bows and there you were. Now your killin' them with an osage longbow. You're a bad example for us that are trying to narrow the field down. :)

pitbull, yeah man!

48@28 Centaur BH and bow.

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Carl I have a pretty wide feild of intrest myself.If it shoots an arrow...I like it! ;)

I gave up on the either/or thing and just decided to learn how to make and use it all.More fun that way.I am hunting with 4 different bows this year that run from a knotty osage to a C-bow.It is all about having fun. lol

TTT, I know there are alot more of ya out there.Keep em commin please.

My wife has a longbow that draws 28lbs. and if it were legal here...I am sure I could kill a deer with it. I killed an Eland in Africa that weighed just over 2000lbs. with a 55lb. recurve and a heavy arrow. The arrow went through both lungs and lodged into the offside shoulder. He went 40 yards and I watched him go down. I also killed 3 kudu, gemsbok, etc. with bows that were less poundage. Animals WAY bigger than whitetails. I regularly hunt deer with a 46lb. recurve and have never had any trouble. Just put the arrow in the boiler room and you will have no problems.

I shot this doe last Friday with a Martin Hunter #40@28. I draw 26 3/4. She dressed at 120#.

OH My God Shes Nakked :~)

Pitbull --- YOU ARE THE MAN ! .......THAT is a truly mature "hog" buck. They are few and far between. AND a different kind of animal all together. Congratulations. oso

Thanks oso, Yeah I'm really happy with the out come of that encounter.

I've been hunting with my Classic Hunter this year but my Shrew Model-T which is only 40# shoots so good with 100gr Stingers that I'm taking it to the woods next week. Hopefully the next picture I post will be with it's first deer. I have full confidence that it can do the job.

And there ya have it folks,another man who has used the heavy bows and is confident in his abilities and that of a 40 lb bow to gitter done right.

I have a good friend who's son shoots an older 35# Bear Kodiak Magnum with razor sharp, razorcap broadheads and carbon arrows and has killed 9 deer in the last 2 years.In NJ a 35 # bow is legal weight. He is only 12 years old, it is where you put the arrow. Many of these kills have been complete pass throughs. A recent kill was a 8 pointer. Keep them sharp !!

Nice doe j-p...complete pass through? How far and what head?

Flyboy718, I ruined a perfectly good heart at about 15 yards from the ground. The Woodsman broadhead went through the far side rib cage but didn't go through the hide. She bolted with the arrow sticking out of her chest. She went a couple of hundred yards past my buddy and towards the road. I could hear the arrow slapping the brush as she went and I wonder if the noise kept her going. I would rather a lung shot than a heart shot.

little lady on "wife kills first deer" thread shot her first with a 35# Bear Panda bow. i'm not sure it would even be legal in tennessee, but it dang sure did the job for her! scummer

I got lucky last night. I took a very nice 9 pt Ohio buck, field dressed over 200lbs with a Great Norther Critter Gitter, 46lbs @ 28". I draw 27" so the actual poundage was 43#'s @ 27". I was shooting a wood arrow with a 160 gr stos broadhead. Shot was 15-17 yrs quartering away. Arrow penetration to the feathers, got both lungs. Deer went about 150 yds. Broadhead was sharpened with the KME broadhead sharpener.

fishbone...got any pics?

I got some photos but do not know how to post them.

Got one last week with a Kanati 53#@28". It is just over 40# at my draw. 10 yard shot on the ground. Massive blood trail lead me straight to it. Had on a LaClair grey Longhunter shirt. The deer was standing under my stand as I walked in. Heard me walking but did not make out what I was. Says something for the wool shirt! Was standing in front of corn 10 yards in front of the deer. No camo. Nice and toasty warm in the shirt as well. Kate

PS-that is not the longhunter shirt in the pic. Got hot draging the deer out of the woods:)

Very nice Ladyhawk, congrats.

#40 morrison cheyene, 470 grain 1916,wensel woodsman head. 25 yards from a tree stand.shot through the onside shoulder blade and "10 of penetration into the heart.this is number 13 for this old morrison.congrats to all the other light poundage shooters who have posted.hope every one has the best season ever.

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Congrats to all of you who posted Kills made with lighter poundage bows.Did at any time,you feel you were handicapped in your choice of weapons?

My first deer.....#33!!! Dwyer defiant! 13 yards away eclipse 2 blade head!

Way to go Tracker, congratulations buddy, that's great!

Dave

traxx, If I felt the set up could'nt get it done than I would never go after game with it. I have way to much respect for the animals. I'm sure everyone hunting with the lighter set ups feels the same way.

Steve-48: That is cool, I bet that is quiet shooting an 11.75 gpp arrow. I have some 2114's I am thinking about fletching up and using for my 40# stallion with 125 grain heads and that will put me at 480 grains for 12 gpp. With that 25 yard shot, did she duck the string much? What kind of speed are you getting with that arrow you recon?

Tracker: that is too cool! from a 30 year old to an 11-12 year old? I envy you big guy!

I am trying to attach a photo of the buck I shot this past Sunday evening.

#42 at my 26" draw 470 grain arrow 125 grain 4 blade stinger broadhead deer ran about 35 yards.

Nice to see you here Tracker. Enjoyed the article about your hunt in TBM.

Here's one I shot sometime back with a self bow made of cedar. No shelf your hand is your shelf. The cedar used to make this bow was picked out from the cedars woods here in Tx where this deer actually roamed. Two billets were used to make the bow. My friend Rick Byrd was the bowyer. He made the bow for himself and was very dissatisfied with the bow since it came out to be only 40#s. I asked him what he intended to do with it. He asked me if I wanted the bow. Of course I said yes. I paid him $50.00 for it. I loved this bow but it finally broke one day while I was practicing with it.

flyboy ive been shooting this setup for hunting for quite awhile. the noise at release is just a slight thump. this deer just perked its ears up at release.as for speed it is around 165 out of my chrono.traxx the only time i have ever felt handicapped was when my old bones hurt to bad to get out and hunt.this same bow and arrow setup shot clean through this deer last year at 20 yards.

Great deer to all who have posted. Kinda makes you wonder how many poor shots might be avoided if folks would learn to shoot with a lower poundage bow. Obviously 40lb is enough for deer and MOST(note: I did not say ALL) will shoot lower weight more accurately.

Mark

This is really very heartening to read. I was a die-hard traditional-only guy for a number of years after realizing I just wasn't having fun shooting a compound anymore. The first three or four years I hunted with a longbow and recurve, I killed everything I shot at, both quickly and cleanly. Then I lost a beautiful bull elk to a single lung shot and wounded a whitetail buck I had been hunting that jumped the string at 20 yards (he spun around and the arrow hit him in the back of the head, believe it or not). I found that I had lost all confidence and so I switched back to the compound for a couple of years. Recently, I felt the old yearning and bought a 45 pound Black Widow PSA II and that is all I will hunt with this season for both deer and hogs. Most of my bows were 60 pounds or better before and I believe the problem I was running into was more the result of being "over-bowed" than anything. To make a long story short, I will be shooting Axis FMJ 500's tipped with 175 grain Woodsmans out of the Widow. They should weigh in at around 10.5 GPP, so hopefully that will do the trick!

Congratulations to everyone!

after I heal for haveing a disc fused i plan on shooting a 40 lber. it is nice to know that I will be o.k. at that weight.

Just to be clear on my last post,i dont have any reservations as to the effectiveness of 40 lb bows.I have seen and experienced it too many times to doubt the effectiveness of this weight.I just wanted to hear others say it and see it in print.More so,so others could see it in print.Too many times ive seen and heard others say 40 lb bows are not efficient past 15 yrds,and i wanted the proof for others to hear,so that if they are thinking of useing this weight,they can do so with confidence.One of the most reliable meat makers,i ever knew,shot a 40 lb bow.He supplied his and 2 other families with meat yearly.Never lost any to inefficiency,in his equiptment and most allways had passthrough shots.Heres the kicker....He only drew to 26" so he was really only useing 35 lbs.These were big ole Mulies also.

Shot this one Sunday evening. My bow is 49#@ 30". I use goldtip 3555 and magnus two blade broadheads. I was on the ground in a fence row and the shot was about 12 yards. The deer was on a hill above me so the arrow angled up and clipped the spine. Dropped in her tracks.

I went out this evening with my 40 lb Stallion Classic for the frst time...I didn't see anything at all on the stand this evening, maybe next time.

Enjoyed his one, espically the young hunters, way to go ya'll

My son took this buck 10-12-09 with a 48# longbow made by Jim Hoker and tapered cedars tipped with woodsmans. Double lung and quick recovery.

My son took this buck 10=12-07 same equipment, same stand, same time and buck was standing in same spot as previous post, his first.

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just curious...i shoot lower to mid 40# bows and light to midweight arrows.....whats the total weight on some of these setups, that harvested these animals. i know i have harvest game with arrows weighing 385 grs. and with a 44# bow!!

40# Samick Stingray. Got both lungs and the arrow lodged in the opposite should. Deer went 75 yards before piling up.

B.M.B, My arrows are about 500 to 540 grains depending on which shafts I use.

Jimrich: that had to have been one heck of a blood trail! WOW nice shot!

Thanks for the comments posted above and goodluck to the rest of you this season! Gald to be part of this wall! Nice deer everybody! Jimrich

Shot a doe on the 12th with a Northern Mist Baraga, 40#, wooden arrow and a stone head. She went 70 yards and dropped. Took her in the lungs

Manitoulin Island button buck with a 45# Howatt Mamba Gold Tip 3555 at 29" and Muzzy 125. He weighed 67.4 pounds on the hoof.

Above button buck was 87.4 pounds not 67.4 pounds. Sorry

try pic again 42# at my 26" draw.

Does anyone have any recent 40# kills?

They still kill like they always have Flyboy. 8^). My bows are between 42 and 48 pounds, and it is rare not to get complete penetration and mostly pass through shots on whitetails. You can show folks photos all day and it doesn't sink it that some of us have been doing this for five decades.

As a matter of fact, most folks who go lighter, actually draw more arrow length and get a better performing bow; they are utilizing the whole bow and not short drawing. I watch guys fighting to get 25" or 26" of draw from 55 and 60 pound bows, and they could get better with a 50 pounder drawn to their anchor.

Here was mine. 44# 52" Maddog longbow, wood shaft w/ 125 gr Magnus. 250# buck complete penetration at 12yds.

#45 @ 28", Damon howatt Super Diablo. It went 75 yards from where I hit it and I watched it fall, good feeling!

Complete pass through! 49#@28" Tice and Watts more then enough!lol

Not a deer, but I made my first hunt and first bow kill last month... Texas javelina with my Old Phartt's Archery 42@25 Hill style flatbow, laminated glass. Pass through shot. I'm sure it qualifies as a 40# kill (or less), since the last time I actually hit full draw with this much weight is but a dim memory... 8^) I normally shoot 28#. I've had to learn the advantages of low poundage from necessity so I could keep shooting with age and health issues. The Old Phartt's motto: "Shoot lighter... Shoot longer!"

The Capn,makes it happen!!!!

Cap you are one of a kind. Maybe that's good.

46# Centaur last day of N.Y. archery season.

61 Bear Kodiak 45lb @ 28 10-31-09 Sons 1st deer with bow.

Very impressive...all of you.

Nov. 1st - Turkey Creek longbow, 42# @ 27", Simmons broadhead, 440 gr. carbon arrow. Double-lung pass-through shot from about 10 yards on the ground. The bow does NOT "hit hard" and the arrow is NOT a "heavy", BUT... the broadhead cuts quickly and effectively.

45#@28" Bear Montana. I pull 27"..125gr Steelforce BH. A little less than 20 yards and complete pass thru.

#45 at 26" draw 510 grain total arrow weight woodsman head complete pass thru.

In NC traditional bows to be legal have to be at least 45 lbs. Of course if you don't pull 28" you won't be shooting the 45# but there's the flaw in the law. In theory I could be "legal" with a 45# bow though I only draw about 27" while one would not be legal with a 44# bow even if they draw 29". A deer well shot by either bow would pretty much not know the difference. Aaron H

Aaron - thats why they make steel wool, sharpies and poly in a rattle can.

Earlier in November this full grown Missouri buck fell prey to my 47# Widow PLX, Easton Axis 500 tipped with a Bear two blade...roughly 475 grains. It has done the job on a couple more since.......and to think I shot 70# for almost 20 yrs...hmmm

Thanksgiving morning buck from Southern Indiana. Taken with a Black Widow SA II 48#@30". Magnus Broadheads and Goldtip 3555 Trad Blem arrow. 15 yard shot from a tree stand. Hit well, deer went about 80 yards. Best part...both my sons were home and got to out hunting with me!

all good info that my new 50# @30" limbs were a good idea now i just need to be in the right spot.

Ron what's specs on the Model T or better yet what is the Model T all about any specs on the new design?

Ps That's just about my weight for my 31.5 inch draw?

Russ

Awsome kills! Boosted my confidence in my 45# kodiak hunter.

Congrats on the fantastic harvests. Great article in TBM about it is shot placement not the bow, not the arrow. The most important thing is how accurately you can shoot the bow.

The other day I saw a fella shooting a 65# bow I noticed two things the first is he was only drawing about 24" and couldn't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside. It was a case of being overbowed, but the kicker was I was shooting my 45# bow (with a thumb draw it is close to 50#) and he was giving me tips about how I needed to move up in weight, "I owed it to my game". My reply "I can hit at 20yds consitently on my first arrow everytime and I owe it to my game to be accurate not drill a non lethal hole in it where it takes 2 days for the thing to die".

Folks, all things being perfect ? yep 40# will work ! what happens when your not perfect and you need more power for a not so perfect shot ??? HD

In all likelihood the same thing that would happen if you were shooting 20 more pounds! Except, the wounding/no recovery shot might not be as severe. The exceptions being (in my opinion based on my own experience) a spine shot or some shoulder shots can become deadly with more poundage. If lower poundage leads to more consistent shot placement, I'm of the opinion you will be ahead of the game and experience less wounding losses. I'll take better shot placement over more penetration on 'bad shots' any time, as too many 'bad shots' are not improved by greater penetration.

"More power for a not so perfect shot"???....I usually shoot 53-54lbs and I'm very sure if I hit a deer in the leg the draw weight could be 84lbs and it won't make a difference. It may or may not help on a shoulder hit...I've seen deer suffer a broken shoulder from a bullet wound and seen the same deer walking on 3 legs a week later.

I've met many people like JBL describes...and I used to hunt with a few. They bought bows that were 75lbs even 80lbs at 28 but they were lucky to be drawing 24" and would be shaking like a leaf the whole way through their draw. They'd move their heads forward to hit the corner of their mouths...then the idiots couldn't figure out why my arrows being drawn to 31" would penetrate 3"deeper than theirs would when we shot at the same target.

Without exception the best shooters I know all shoot between 50 and 60lbs....There are exceptional people who can draw and shoot real heavy bows...a guy I hunted with years ago, right in front of my eyes grabbed 2 bows in his hand that totaled 140lbs combined draw weight, drew them to anchor and held them there and then slowly let down, I couldn't believe it. Still, he hunts with a 55lb John Strunk selfbow...and can shoot your eyes out with it too...

ANDY, I would like to see a real comprehensive study on wounded deer and bow weight,just because you shoot a lite weight bow doesn,t mean your a better shot ! Ive seen it ! HD

Mercer, Back to the original thread ? it states 40# bows ! not bows in the 40# range. A 45# bow is a lot different than a 40# bow as is a 49# bow ! callin a spade a spade bro HD

HD-08, such a study would be interesting reading. And no doubt about it, there are those who can shoot their 55# bow with more consistency than others who shoot 40#. And 'light weight bows' is a relative term. We've all seen folks who can barely draw a 45# bow, and others who can draw 55# in comfort through a lot of shooting. It all boils down to how consistent the individual is at a given draw weight....if you aren't, dropping down a few pounds just might make you a more consistent shot and a more successful bowhunter. And if you can't handle more poundage it is a rubber crutch that will likely bring more bad shots and won't make most of them any better due to increased bow poundage. Most of my 'bad shots' over the last 38 years of bow hunting deer would not have given me a dead deer with more bow poundage. My bad shots years ago with a 60+ pound compound and heavy arrows were no more effective than my bad shots with 45-50# traditional bows. Again...I know there are marginal shots where poundage can make a difference. As to this thread, pictures are worth a thousand words, and no doubt about it, 40# in competant hands can be deadly on deer size game! Good hunting..whether you're pulling 40# or 60!

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