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Lets see them repo's of the 1959 Kodiak

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cody roiter 05-Mar-09
RckyMtn Joe 06-Mar-09
Recurve Crafter 06-Mar-09
Woodduck 06-Mar-09
bowhunt 06-Mar-09
Recurve Crafter 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
MRmich 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
MStyles 06-Mar-09
jipp 06-Mar-09
GregE 06-Mar-09
George D. Stout 06-Mar-09
Recurve Crafter 06-Mar-09
Recurve Crafter 06-Mar-09
Recurve Crafter 06-Mar-09
joe vt 06-Mar-09
RckyMtn Joe 06-Mar-09
jipp 06-Mar-09
stykzz 06-Mar-09
manybows 06-Mar-09
jipp 06-Mar-09
George D. Stout 06-Mar-09
stykzz 06-Mar-09
Chief 06-Mar-09
bowhawk75 06-Mar-09
fdp 06-Mar-09
Brian Peters 06-Mar-09
4nolz 06-Mar-09
jipp 06-Mar-09
jipp 06-Mar-09
bowhawk75 06-Mar-09
bowhawk75 06-Mar-09
cody roiter 07-Mar-09
B.T. 07-Mar-09
B.T. 07-Mar-09
B.T. 07-Mar-09
B.T. 07-Mar-09
BEAVER_BUG 07-Mar-09
BEAVER_BUG 07-Mar-09
bowhawk75 07-Mar-09
cody roiter 07-Mar-09
Daddy Bear 07-Mar-09
Bjorn 07-Mar-09
BEAVER_BUG 08-Mar-09
jipp 08-Mar-09
BEAVER_BUG 08-Mar-09
jipp 08-Mar-09
stickbow98 09-Mar-09
greyhawk 10-Mar-09
Grant Young 10-Mar-09
greyhawk 10-Mar-09
greyhawk 10-Mar-09
Woodduck 10-Mar-09
greyhawk 10-Mar-09
Grant Young 10-Mar-09
greyhawk 10-Mar-09
tracy warren 29-Mar-11
habu john 29-Mar-11
From: cody roiter
Date: 05-Mar-09




Hello Guys, I would like to see some pics of the repo's of 1959 bear Kodiak.. any thing that looks like the 59 will work for me...

Thanks guys,

Cody

From: RckyMtn Joe
Date: 06-Mar-09




What is a "repo" of a '59 Bear Kodiak?

From: Recurve Crafter
Date: 06-Mar-09

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Here ya go Cody.

This is a 50's style recurve that I've been working on for the past few months now.

The one shown is the prototype and is a 62"er. It also has a matching 64" hybrid style longbow (or semi-recurve) prototype (shown in the pics). Both bows use the exact same riser design.

The recurve is not intended to be a "repo" or copy of a '59 Kodiak, but it's made in a similar style.

When I decided to make the bow, I wanted that 50's style look, however, I didn't set out to copy any particular model. So, as far as I know, it doesn't share the exact same geometry as a '59. I think the riser on this bow is a little smaller/petite, both in length and width than a '59?

My main goal in designing the bow was just to capture the essence of the bows that made in the late 1950's.

I actually have a nicer looking one that I'm in the process of finishing up right now. It also has a classic I-beam laminated riser made from Goncalo Alves (Tigerwood) with a dark Ziricote sight window. The limbs are clear glass over Goncalo Avles veneers with Bamboo cores. It's really turning out to be a sharp looking bow! I'll post a pic of it for ya in a few days after it's completed.

Take care,

Brandon

From: Woodduck
Date: 06-Mar-09




Doesn't your friend, Ron, have a 'Grayling Special'?

From: bowhunt
Date: 06-Mar-09




Are those static tips Brandon on the new recurve your working on?Are the limbs narrow as well?Looks great!

From: Recurve Crafter
Date: 06-Mar-09




I'd consider them to be more of a semi-static.

It doesn't have any type of tip stiffening insert or a sharp "kinked" limb tip like some of the statics have.

However, it does have a fairly tight radiused tip that does open up slightly. That's why I really wouldn't consider it to be a true static.

The proto shown actually had a little deeper hook than what I intended the bow to have. I made the necessary adjustments to the limb design and re-cut the form. The results were good and I was satisfied.

The limbs on the bow are fairly narrow. The bow starts out as a 1 1/2" wide blank. The limb taper starts well into the riser fadeout area and progresses nicely all the way to the tips.

I should have pics and more info on both bows posted on my website soon. (I hope)

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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ed holcomb version

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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both of these are holcombs

From: MRmich
Date: 06-Mar-09




beautiful looking bows. MR

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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McCoullough

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Date: 06-Mar-09

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McCoullough & Holcomb

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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Big River

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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i love the 59 profile....an original

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09

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maybe one day i will own an original

From: MStyles
Date: 06-Mar-09




The 59 Kodiak is a classic for sure.

From: jipp
Date: 06-Mar-09

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brandon they look great as always :)

joe - really like the first one.. that wood pops out. this one.. real pretty.

From: GregE
Date: 06-Mar-09




Wow!!! What a visual treat! 8^)

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Mar-09




I hate to see them reposessed though, that's a shame. I had a Big River 59' Reproduction and it was sweet. Of course I traded it for something else.

From: Recurve Crafter
Date: 06-Mar-09




Here we go...

This is the Goncalo/Ziricote bow after the first sealer coat so it's not totally finished yet but getting closer.

The seal coat is glossy but the bow will have a flat/satin finish on it when it's done.

I actually like it in gloss but since this is just an inventory bow, it's better to finish it out in flat/satin. I've learned that most guys don't like a shiny bow.

The gloss does help this one look really classy though. It really lets the iridescence and light figure of the Goncalo Alves "pop" out at you.

From: Recurve Crafter
Date: 06-Mar-09




[IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/recurvecrafter/Ocelotbowpics001-vert.jpg[/IMG]

From: Recurve Crafter
Date: 06-Mar-09

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Lets try that again. Sorry about that.

From: joe vt
Date: 06-Mar-09




I like Brandon!!!! I sent you another PM

From: RckyMtn Joe
Date: 06-Mar-09




George---I think your comment went a bit high---like over some heads (as did my earlier one).

From: jipp
Date: 06-Mar-09




yupp, brandon i like :)

you make a great bows.

chris.

From: stykzz
Date: 06-Mar-09

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This is one that I'm working on. The '59 was one of the bows that served as inspiration. 60" 45#. Black Walnut riser with black glass and lamboo cores. Just a prototype, so the next one will have pretty wood and veneers.

From: manybows
Date: 06-Mar-09




Brandon if that baby shoots half as good as it looks you will sell alot of them.

From: jipp
Date: 06-Mar-09




stykzz - i like it. i think you are on to a great design. right this moment in time im at the stage of a single piece of pretty wood is a sexy riser to me..

sorta burnt out on all the fancy designs.. ( i reserve the right to pick which days i like fancy or simple )

chris

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Mar-09




jipp, I like plain ol' black glass too, along with a nice hunk of rosewood and maybe an I beam of zebra or purpleheart. That bow is beautiful Brandon but much too busy for my taste.

From: stykzz
Date: 06-Mar-09

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Thanks Jipp. I know it doesn't look exactly like a '59, but I kept tweeking the form until I got it just the way I wanted it. I made three forms before I got smart and started using JB weld to add where I needed more material (on the form).

Everyone that shoots it really likes it, but I don't know if they're just being nice. Anyway, I like it, and that's all the really matters I guess. The handle material (black walnut) is really light in weight so the bow weighs next to nothing. I'll do cocobolo and something else next time around.

From: Chief
Date: 06-Mar-09




Wow - beautiful work guys!

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Chief

From: bowhawk75 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Mar-09

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Here is one made out of Wenge. Made by Vintage Works.

From: fdp
Date: 06-Mar-09




Hey stykzz, send that beauty to me and I'll let you know if I really like it !!! LOL

From: Brian Peters Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 06-Mar-09




Also just received a 59 Kodiak with maple sight riser and rosewood from vintage works via an ebay connection, the bow is gorgeous. He is a pleasure to do business with, the bow was delivered in less then 6 weeks .

From: 4nolz
Date: 06-Mar-09

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only pic I have is an unfinished pic beside the original

From: jipp
Date: 06-Mar-09




nolz - thats gonna turn out nice. :)

chris.

From: jipp
Date: 06-Mar-09




ok, iv read the 64 was the cats meow.. so is the 59 next up? or are they two different animals.. shows my bear ignorance.

for life of me i thought the 64 was the one everyone wanted.. or is it the 59.. shrugs, i say lets have both!!! and lets not make life hard i guess.

chris.

From: bowhawk75 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Mar-09

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Some more pics of Kodiaks from Vintage Works.

From: bowhawk75 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Mar-09

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And some more Vintage Works.

From: cody roiter
Date: 07-Mar-09




Who is this guy vintage works bow guy ??.. Dose he have a web site or how can I find him or ebay name...

From: B.T.
Date: 07-Mar-09

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Holcomb 59 special with the PII grip.

From: B.T.
Date: 07-Mar-09

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Date: 07-Mar-09

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Date: 07-Mar-09

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From: BEAVER_BUG
Date: 07-Mar-09

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Here's a couple that I've been fortunate enough to get my hands on.

A Maple sight window 60" 55# and a Purple Heart Sight window 60" 48# Both have brown backs and burnt orange bellies.

Trap

From: BEAVER_BUG
Date: 07-Mar-09

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From: bowhawk75 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Mar-09

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Cody, the guy who owns Vintage Works is Scott Reed. He can be reached at [email protected] Right now there is no website.I go over to Scott's about once a week to make some bow dust. For you guys in Colorado, I will have a few Kodiak replicas at the Jamboree this summer for sale.

From: cody roiter
Date: 07-Mar-09




Thnak's Guys

From: Daddy Bear
Date: 07-Mar-09




Does Big River Bows have a website? Anyone else have a website who restores and/or makes reproductions of the old Bear bows??

Thanks, Daddy Bear

From: Bjorn
Date: 07-Mar-09




Beaver Bug those are good looking feather rests and leather sideplates-did they come with the bows?

From: BEAVER_BUG
Date: 08-Mar-09




Thank You Bjorn, I make the feather rests and sell them as "Trap's Feather Rests" Bob York from Pennsylvania made the strike plates.

Trap

From: jipp
Date: 08-Mar-09




trap - do you switch the feathers from left to right? i think i remember reading one of the better feather rest were design like so.

chris.

From: BEAVER_BUG
Date: 08-Mar-09




Chris, Yes I use RW feathers for RH shooters and LW feathers for LH shooters. The rests are also shaped in a way that holds the arrow against the strike plate. I found that artififial barred domestic turkey feathers did not hold up well and switched to Natural barred wild turkey feathers about a year ago and they are super durable now.

Trap

From: jipp
Date: 08-Mar-09




trap - sounds like a winner. iv always been a fan of the feather rests :) they just work so well.

chris.

From: stickbow98
Date: 09-Mar-09

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Nice bow, joe vt!! LOL!

>>--Ron--<>

From: greyhawk
Date: 10-Mar-09




Man those are nice bow's papa bear would be proud of the quality and work that went into them and keep his legacy alive.

I purchased a B handle take down,I like this bow so much I want to build a replica as well,I talked to Owen Jeffrey of Jeffrey archery and he wasnt sure how long it was, he used to be freds main bowyer in grayling...but what I was wondering what the dimenions of a super kodiak in the 1970's,basically the overall length on the back side of the riser.This is for a 60" bow,I was wonder if somebody out there could give me a rough measurement on what it would be.This is going to be a bow for myself,so I have one of each and will not be for sale when I build it...thanks for your time...hawk

From: Grant Young Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Mar-09




Greyhawk, I'll measure my '69 and '71 models and get back to you. I also have a B riser Owen built for me back around '87 or '88- the date is on the bow and I'll check it.I want to say 17" but I better measure. Be very careful about seating the limb sockets- I have seen some beautiful replicas but I've never seen one on which the sockets fit into the profile as well as they do on the Bear originals. Ambitious project, good luck. Grant

From: greyhawk
Date: 10-Mar-09




Thank's grant for your time I appreciate it...this is the one piece version...and yes I was wondering when I build the mold and the bow will be belly side down to get the curved parts of the riser on the belly side centering on the mold will be tricky I am thinking...but I am a hobbiest bowyer so I have plenty of time...lol...thank's again.

From: greyhawk
Date: 10-Mar-09




Thank's grant for your time I appreciate it...this is the one piece version...and yes I was wondering when I build the mold and the bow will be belly side down to get the curved parts of the riser on the belly side centering on the mold will be tricky I am thinking...but I am a hobbiest bowyer so I have plenty of time...lol...thank's again.

From: Woodduck
Date: 10-Mar-09




http://jefferyarchery.com/main/custom_bows.htm

Get a Jeffery. He made bows for Fred Bear.

From: greyhawk
Date: 10-Mar-09




Hey Grant, you said Owen built you a take down recurve in 87 or 88 was that a fred bear take down or one of his, I am assuming one of his...very nice gentle man.His son said he is 85yrs old...I said wow...but Owen told me he has built 300,000 bow's after I said is it true you have built 50,000...lol, but nice none the same,I got to talk to a legend...very special...

From: Grant Young Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Mar-09




Greyhawk, the bow he built me was a B length riser, repro Bear latch system takedown. I still own the bow. We took the hardware out of an '81 or '82 greenstriper. Its made from bubinga and walnut. He also built a Super Kodiak copy for me that was the best performer I ever owned. As a bowbuilder you know that every once in a while one just comes out "hot" and this bow was an anomaly. It disappeared in a divorce in 1993. I still miss it. I spent a lot of time with Owen in the mid to late Eighties and I can't tell you how much I treasure those times or how much I respect him on a number of different levels.

From: greyhawk
Date: 10-Mar-09




Oh wow that are times that a person sure appreciates hey.And the divorce, I bet she doesnt shoot a bow...lol..crappy and not nice...but that replica of the super kodiak you don't remember what the riser length was a round about guess and if owen built it,that would really be special for sure...I can always take some measurement's off of my take down and guestamate...what it would be...and yes some bow, I make I think it will be a stinker, but once you get the riser cut and sand there is a nice surprise in the wood.

From: tracy warren
Date: 29-Mar-11




Man I just love these bows. Definately at the top of my wish list.

From: habu john Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 29-Mar-11




I agree with Tracy, love looking at the bowyers crafts. Great job guys on your bows, very nice. habu john





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